Zeus Numismatics?????

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by panzerman, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Just checked their site/ they listed this as from Cyprus/ Slamis Mint 450BC:shame: Oops!!!!!! cyprus-salamis-circa-450-430-bc-7748277.jpg
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Did you buy it ?
     
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  4. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    No, I would not trust that auction. I never heard of them.
    The coin is really a
    AV Stater struck 123-19BC
    Ionia/ Epsesos
    nothing to do with Cyprus/ Salamis.
    There seem to be lots of these coming to market/ I will wait till prices come down more.
     
  5. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    I did not like the look of that coin and would be reluctant to buy it. The bumps may be normal, but I did not like them.
    I bought two scale weights from ZN. They were delivered promptly & the weights in hand looked like their pictures, the size & weights matched their descriptions... I give good marks for that. Both were called Byzantine Jewelery Weights. I would call one a coin weight and one a commercial weight.... I did not consider the description a problem.
    another A weight zeus a 8.8.2021 6 sol.jpg
    6 sol coin weight = one Roman ounce

    another A weight zeus 8.8.2021.jpg
    one ounce commercial weight
     
  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Mistakes happen. Did you notify them of the error?
     
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  7. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Yes I did....
    here are the photos....
    lot 19 "Greek coin" 4.80g. 17.2mm.
    lot 20 "Greek coin" 4.20g. 15.7mm.
    lot 22 "Cyprus/ Salamis" 3.20g. 17.2mm.
    lot 23 "Dynasts of Lycia/ uncertain dynasty greek-coins-ae-reference-condition-very-fine-7748274.jpg greek-coins-ae-reference-condition-very-fine-7748275.jpg cyprus-salamis-circa-450-430-bc-7748277.jpg dynasts-of-lycia-uncertain-dynast-7748278.jpg 0.9g. 10.5mm.

    Definately need better descriptions
     
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  8. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    One of those is supposedly from Magnesia.
     
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  9. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    There seem to be a lot of these appearing in auctions/ esp. Heritage (slabbed) Must have found a hoard of them/ hopefully prices will keep dropping;) Even though descriptions are all over the map/ photos seem legit/ grading "Very Fine" about right. Just the size/ weight/ locales are a "bit off".
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Part of their business model is minimal descriptions. Probably saves time and money, which is suitable for a small outfit (I don't know the size of the company though). Several of the newer firms using Biddr do that-- give only the barest minimum description.

    There can be benefits to the bidders in this scenario, where detailed knowledge of a coin may help you get something rare or interesting for a better price than if it were fully described and bearing a headline "very rare", etc.
     
  11. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I was thinking the same thing:) You end up getting the deals from obscure venues/ since collectors with deep pockets flock to the higher end auction houses like CNG/ Roma/ Stacks/ Heritage/ Sincona/ Kunker....
    I ended up getting a FDC AV Tremissis Honorius from "Golden Lion Auction" site for 800euros/ also a Koln AV Goldgulden from 1554 in EF-MS for 700.
     
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  12. iameatingjam

    iameatingjam Well-Known Member

    I've bought from zeus a number of times and was never disappointed. Sometimes I don't really have a choice but buying from the less known auctions houses, for financial reasons.
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I agree. I love snabbing lots on eBay described as “UNIDENTIFIED ROMAN COIN” etc, where I can 100% identify a juicy snack.
    Granted, so can everybody else interested but at least it keeps the unformed from running up the bid.
     
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  15. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Here is the coin with precise data from upcoming Triton XXV described as:
    Ionia/ Ephesos
    AV Stater ND struck circa 123-119BC
    8.36g. 20mm. 12h
    good very fine 236_1.jpg
     
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  16. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Yes, this one is from Ephesos
    But the OP coin is from Magnesia.
     
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