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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 5125500, member: 110504&quot;][USER=87271]@AnYangMan[/USER], sorry for the delay in addressing this part of your first post.&nbsp; But your profession of relative ignorance about the 11th century coins could not help evoking the saying, &#039;In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King.&#039;&nbsp; </p><p>Of course, you were Spot On in your identification of the type and the issuing bishop of the denar /pfennig.&nbsp; It is 10.10.B of Ilisch&#039;s otherwise magnificent study. </p><p>...Without a trace of apparent variation, which wasn&#039;t reducible to different dies.&nbsp; In a study as recent as this!&nbsp; This is a dramatic contrast to the earlier French feudal that has been my traditional &#039;center of gravity&#039; as a collector.&nbsp; Apart from minting practices (we can all &#039;hold our noses&#039; for a moment), it&#039;s remarkable how standardized the production of the dies would have been, even during the reign of one bishop.</p><p>I&#039;m seeing more of the true legends (including &#039;WILHELLM&#039;) on my example, but am still having trouble making any sense of the reverse legend(s).&nbsp; The most intuitive guess is that this is some version of the Medieval Latin for the place name.&nbsp; Here, as you observed, there is some evident loss to the original legend of Bernold.</p><p>Anyway, Thanks, Lots!&nbsp; Congratulations on your attendance of Ilisch&#039;s lecture on coins of Leiden.&nbsp; I will look them up!&nbsp; ...It&#039;s been a long time since anything in .pdf format was this much fun to read![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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