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<p>[QUOTE="Publius2, post: 8356030, member: 105571"]I initially voted to net grade the coin down to 66-67 but I am changing my opinion to MS-Details. I don't know how to change my vote in the poll.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, I am accepting at face value your pronouncement that the reverse marks are "mint made". But the only way this kind of damage (and I am assuming it is damage that was caused by handling within the mint) can result in a straight grade is if the coin reflects what was part of the actual coin-striking process. I don't think this damage reflects what was on the dies nor an artifact of the coin-striking process but since I don't know what caused this, I stand ready to be corrected.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, the fact that the marks are "mint made" (whatever that means) is largely meaningless. Whether the marks are contact marks occurring in the mint or damaging scrapes that occurred in the mint, these are still detractors from the perfect grade of 70. Obviously, planchet striations, die polishing lines and the like are as-struck artifacts of the coin-striking process and while meriting grade reductions do not merit a details grade. But if it's post-minting damage within the mint, then it's still damage.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just a little criticism of your method here as being unfair to everyone not in the know. Since some of us haven't a clue what caused these markings and you haven't told us and your description of "mint-made" is so ambiguous as to be meaningless, I am forced to guess, not deduce. Let me give you an example of what I mean: Adjustment marks on early American silver coinage are "mint-made" and if you didn't know what they were pretty much anyone would assume that they were damage that would reduce the grade or even details-grade the coin. But once you know what adjustment marks are, you understand that they are legitimate artifacts of the coin-making process and while deserving of a reduction in grade, are not deserving of a details grade.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Publius2, post: 8356030, member: 105571"]I initially voted to net grade the coin down to 66-67 but I am changing my opinion to MS-Details. I don't know how to change my vote in the poll. First, I am accepting at face value your pronouncement that the reverse marks are "mint made". But the only way this kind of damage (and I am assuming it is damage that was caused by handling within the mint) can result in a straight grade is if the coin reflects what was part of the actual coin-striking process. I don't think this damage reflects what was on the dies nor an artifact of the coin-striking process but since I don't know what caused this, I stand ready to be corrected. Second, the fact that the marks are "mint made" (whatever that means) is largely meaningless. Whether the marks are contact marks occurring in the mint or damaging scrapes that occurred in the mint, these are still detractors from the perfect grade of 70. Obviously, planchet striations, die polishing lines and the like are as-struck artifacts of the coin-striking process and while meriting grade reductions do not merit a details grade. But if it's post-minting damage within the mint, then it's still damage. Just a little criticism of your method here as being unfair to everyone not in the know. Since some of us haven't a clue what caused these markings and you haven't told us and your description of "mint-made" is so ambiguous as to be meaningless, I am forced to guess, not deduce. Let me give you an example of what I mean: Adjustment marks on early American silver coinage are "mint-made" and if you didn't know what they were pretty much anyone would assume that they were damage that would reduce the grade or even details-grade the coin. But once you know what adjustment marks are, you understand that they are legitimate artifacts of the coin-making process and while deserving of a reduction in grade, are not deserving of a details grade.[/QUOTE]
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