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<p>[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 619206, member: 2972"]You are welcomed to your purist's approach, but it is unrealistic if you hope to be able to accurately price coins and predict TPG grades.</p><p><br /></p><p>To answer your quesiton, no, I don't think they are the same thing in all cases. In the case of NGC/PCGS, which both use what I call market grading, then yes, I do think they are the same thing. However, I think you are getting too caught up in semantics, to be honest.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not going to try and rationalize NGC's use of the *. It is inconsistent at best, and like all TPG grades (or any grades for that matter) it is an opinion. Who am I to say it is right or wrong -- it is what it is, or so the cliche goes. But what really matters to us as collectors in the end are three people's opinions -- the seller, the collector (you and me, the most important), and the buyer (if any). You will note that the TPGs are absent from that list.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Don't confuse the coins that you see with the real marketplace. </p><p><br /></p><p>Trying to draw hard and fast rules about TPGs is problematic, because the coins you "see" are mostly the crap that won't stick. Remember this, the best good coins "disappear" off the market. Kind of like Gresham's law -- that the bad money drives out good money -- except applied to collectible coins, i.e. bad coins drive the good coins out of the market. Think of it like this, if you were forced to sell half your collection, would you keep the good half or the bad half?</p><p><br /></p><p>So, be very careful in making sweeping statements concerning TPG grading practices, particularly early in your numismatic career. To wit, you could not be more mistaken in the above quote -- PCGS absolutely does give bumps to toned coins, and both NGC and PCGS will not grade coins because of toning, and both are inconsistent and not to be relied on.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 619206, member: 2972"]You are welcomed to your purist's approach, but it is unrealistic if you hope to be able to accurately price coins and predict TPG grades. To answer your quesiton, no, I don't think they are the same thing in all cases. In the case of NGC/PCGS, which both use what I call market grading, then yes, I do think they are the same thing. However, I think you are getting too caught up in semantics, to be honest. I'm not going to try and rationalize NGC's use of the *. It is inconsistent at best, and like all TPG grades (or any grades for that matter) it is an opinion. Who am I to say it is right or wrong -- it is what it is, or so the cliche goes. But what really matters to us as collectors in the end are three people's opinions -- the seller, the collector (you and me, the most important), and the buyer (if any). You will note that the TPGs are absent from that list. Don't confuse the coins that you see with the real marketplace. Trying to draw hard and fast rules about TPGs is problematic, because the coins you "see" are mostly the crap that won't stick. Remember this, the best good coins "disappear" off the market. Kind of like Gresham's law -- that the bad money drives out good money -- except applied to collectible coins, i.e. bad coins drive the good coins out of the market. Think of it like this, if you were forced to sell half your collection, would you keep the good half or the bad half? So, be very careful in making sweeping statements concerning TPG grading practices, particularly early in your numismatic career. To wit, you could not be more mistaken in the above quote -- PCGS absolutely does give bumps to toned coins, and both NGC and PCGS will not grade coins because of toning, and both are inconsistent and not to be relied on.[/QUOTE]
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