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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Gallienus, post: 2380014, member: 42034&quot;]A&nbsp; big mistake of mine was in not attending the Lissner sale in person, flying up from Brazil.&nbsp; Yes prices were insane &amp; I had given dealer representatives a huge multi-variable spreadsheet of maybe close to 100 pieces.&nbsp; In the end I got nothing major.&nbsp; Had I been in attendance I would&#039;ve met some friends and there were a few important pieces that slipped thru the cracks.</p><p><br /></p><p>I was pleased to note that the 65 grade Chile 1819 8 escudos brought some money: I also have the NGC 64 specimen of the same date.&nbsp; There is a major variety difference between these early Dos Bandaras gold and the latter pieces like the 1832.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m a member of the SNB (Sociedade Numismatica do Brasil) &amp; people (well actually my wife) are harassing me to write an article on US grading standards &amp; coin conservation for their magazine down there.</p><p><br /></p><p>I did find the following down there.&nbsp; This is the 2nd year of issue of Brazil&#039;s gold coins.&nbsp; Easy to remember: the USA made it&#039;s 1st gold in 1795, Brazil made it in 1695*.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is a 4000 reis, 1696 &amp; of a type made only a few years in the 17th century.&nbsp; No mint mark, but at this time there was a mint which moved every couple of years.&nbsp; In 1696, it was in Salvadore, capital of the State of Bahia.&nbsp; <img src="http://coinsandhistory.com/pix_coin/Brazil/Bra_4K_reis_1696_both.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>However this piece has some slight damage.&nbsp; There are 3 short scratches (total) under 3 of the 7 castle-things in the outer part of the shield.&nbsp; They don&#039;t show up in this photo &amp; in fact when I last looked at the coin I couldn&#039;t see them, but they do show up with a Hastings-Triplet.&nbsp; The surfaces however are absolutely pristine &amp; frosty otherwise (owned by a non-rubbing coin dealer).&nbsp; Normally I avoid damaged coins but I&#039;ve looked at 1600&#039;s slabbed Brazilian gold and it always has some problem; even stuff in 62 holders.&nbsp; It&#039;s a toss-up whether this coin will slab or not.&nbsp; Were it not for the 3 scratches I&#039;d guess a 64 grade easily but then again I&#039;m not a professional.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I don&#039;t collect Portugal.&nbsp; I collect Brazil as part of my Latin American collection.&nbsp; I should mention that uniquely for Brazil, I also am able to get some Colonial stuff. Due to financial constraints I simply don&#039;t collect all countries but limit myself to only 3 or 4 areas.&nbsp; I shall try Numisma Auctions in Portugal but I&#039;ll need representation there.</p><p><br /></p><p>&amp; yes your guess is correct.&nbsp; I tried for the Roman Johannes (my namesake) solidus in NAC but got blown out of the water.</p><p><br /></p><p>*The Dutch did make some pieces in the 1640&#039;s but this was not Portuguese Brazil.&nbsp; I consider these piece to be, like the 1787? Brasher doubloons for the USA, outside the regular country coinage[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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