Your opinions please

Look at this thread, there’s a picture of a whizzed Morgan dollar and some good explanations: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/what-is-a-whizzed-coin.196059/

 

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After seeing all the posted photos, I'm even more confused.

In some shots, the coin looks like a nice 64. That toning spot on the obverse is a real distraction though. When you posted pictures of the reeded edge, something didn't look right. Almost like it was covered in a foreign substance or someone tried to buff it. Too "glossy". The obverse fields look okay in many of the pics. Seems typical of a P mint.

The reverse though has me puzzled. All the high spots have that satin luster smoothed. Almost like that coin sat in that 2x2 and was slid across surfaces.

Do you see any hairlines on the reverse? Not really sure what to make of the coin.

 

Thanks for the link, a lot of good information. Helps me to rule out whizzing.

 

Thanks for your feedback! I feel the same way about this coin, bit of a head scratcher.

...on the front I should say. The reverse however has revealed long parallel hairlines in the fields between wreath and wings. Very hard to see even with my 5x.

 

Thank you all for your experience in this matter, I definitely came to the right place for answers. I just now, under just the right light holding the coin upside down and slightly tilted, can see long parallel hairline scratches on the fields between the wreath and wings. I guess that’s what disappointment looks like :/ Thanks again everyone and thumbs up to the forum!

 

Do those hairline scratches go from the fields and on to the devices or do they stop? If they stop, they are likely die polishing lines, which are perfectly acceptable.

 

If I may make a recommendation take you image straight on while the coin is leaning on something.
Me I use my coffee coaster, also use the full image option .
Then I use Photoscape (it's FREE) to crop it.

 

Extremely hard to see but seem to be only on the reverse fields. The lines look irregular, not mechanical or uniformed. Devices reveal only random micro contact marks under 5x no scratches. Does that sound consistent with die polishing lines?

 

Thank you, I will try that!

 

Hmm, tough to say. Let me ask this another way.

When you see the hairlines in the fields, do the keep going up on to the devices? Kind of like a continuation. Or are the hairlines you see on the devices "unrelated" to the hairlines in the fields?

 

Nice job on that photo. Well done with the semi PL surfaces and showing the luster.
Some of these are a real pain.

 

Definitely been in that holder a long time. The obverse toning @ 12 o'clock looks commensurate to a reaction with the top staple in the holder. Could've been moisture contact on that staple at some point that then reacted into the cardboard holder, and thus reacting with the approximate area of the coin's surface/rim. The coin itself looks MS, but the central devices indicate evidence of being wiped with a soft cloth. Not necessarily enough to have left hairlines, but enough to devoid the central device highpoint of luster. Hard to say if the coin would straight-grade.

 

Definitely unrelated. The hairlines do not continue over the devices. Sorry to be unclear earlier. Thanks.

 

The thread below shows what a mint state coin looks like and has die polishing lines.
If you scroll through the thread @jtlee321 also shows what die polishing lines look like.
The lines are mainly at 6 o'clock on the coin. If you look closely the lines end at the portrait and devices.
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1964d-prooflike-quarter.331168/#post-3317813

 

That’s a very good point. I know it doesn’t take much to lose the mint luster.

 

I am thinking 64.