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<p>[QUOTE="ValiantKnight, post: 2681983, member: 44210"]Can't remember if this has been done already but I figure between newer members and new acquisitions over time it can't hurt to start this thread. As the title goes, post the top few ancient or medieval coins that really beat up your wallet, the ones that threw you in the doghouse or the wagon for a long time, the coins that could pay your ransom, you get the idea <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> You don't need to disclose how much you paid (if you want to give at least an idea of how much put like "somewhat under $1000" or something), and if you'd like you could inform on what helps to make your coins as expensive as they are, and maybe what you had to do to get it. Also, I'd like to keep this at 5 or less coins per person and with the coins by order of their cost, but I won't nitpick about this.</p><p><br /></p><p>1.) <b><u>Sisebut</u>, Visigothic Kingdom</b></p><p>AV tremissis</p><p><b>Obv</b>: + SISEBVTVS REX, bust facing</p><p><b>Rev</b>: + TOLETO PIVS, bust facing</p><p><b>Mint</b>: Toledo</p><p><b>Date</b>: 612-621 AD</p><p><b>Ref</b>: Miles 183a</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/sisebutvisigoth-jpg.570747/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I originally bought a different one from Emerita mint but was instead sent this one. They were pretty much in the same condition and I had preferred one from the Visigothic capital of Toledo so I kept this one and didn't press the issue. Visigothic gold coins in general aren't prohibitively rare but are rare enough to make them usually more expensive than your typical Roman and Byzantine gold.</p><p><br /></p><p>2.) <b><b><u>Jovinus</u>, Western Roman Empire</b></b></p><p>AR siliqua</p><p><b>Obv</b>: D N IOVIN-VS P F AVG, Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right</p><p><b>Rev</b>: VICTOR-IA AVGG, Roma seated left on stylized cuirass, holding Victory on globe and reversed spear</p><p><b>Mint</b>: Lugdunum</p><p><b>Mintmark</b>: SMLDV</p><p><b>Date</b>: 411-413 AD</p><p><b>Ref</b>: RIC X 1717</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/jovinus_zpsgdobx5l3-jpg.570745/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>In addition to the horrendously-rare legitimate Western emperors of the 5th century like Julius Nepos, Glycerius, Priscus Attalus, etc. there are also the extremely rare usurpers as well. Jovinus is one of them. I wasn't up to speed on prices for Jovinus coins other than "he is rare enough where it would most likely take me years until I could afford one" but fortunately I came across this one at what i thought was a reasonable price, where the raising of the money within a reasonable amount of time was doable. All I need now is to find his brother Sebastianus in a unidentified lot <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>3.) <b><u>Justinian</u>, Byzantine Empire</b></p><p>AV solidus</p><p><b>Obv</b>: D N IVSTINI-ANVS P P AVG, helmeted, cuirassed bust facing, holding cross on globe and shield</p><p><b>Rev</b>: VICTORI-A AVGGG delta, angel standing facing, holding P-headed cross and cross on globe, star in right field</p><p><b>Mint</b>: Constantinople</p><p><b>Mintmark</b>: CONOB</p><p><b>Date</b>: 542-565 AD</p><p><b>Ref</b>: SB 140</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/justinianisolidus-jpg.570746/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I feel like I am pretty picky when it comes to Byzantine gold. I could have settled for a "cheapo" one with an amateur-ish looking style and worn and clipped, but I wanted something better. With mine, the face is more lifelike (Justinian was compared in likeness to Domitian and I can see this on my coin), and there is great detail all around.</p><p><br /></p><p>4.) <b><u>Maurice Tiberius</u>, Byzantine Empire</b></p><p>AV solidus</p><p><b>Obv</b>: D N mAVRC TIb PP AVC, diademed, helmeted, and cuirassed bust facing, holding globus cruciger in left hand</p><p><b>Rev</b>: VICTORI-A AVGG ∆, Victory standing facing, holding long staff surmounted with staurogram in left hand and globus cruciger in right hand</p><p><b>Mint</b>: Constantinople</p><p><b>Mintmark</b>: CONOB</p><p><b>Date</b>:582-602 AD</p><p><b>Ref</b>: SB 476</p><p><b>Size</b>: 4.29 g., 21 mm wide</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/maurice-png.523475/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The typical art style of Byzantine coins does not appeal to people as much to that of earlier Roman and Greek coins, but when done right it can still look attractive. In addition to the clear details on the profile, I was drawn in by the neatness of the whole thing, like nothing seems out of proportion or oddly-shaped or anything (compared to a lot of other Byzantine profiles that I see).</p><p><br /></p><p>5.) <b><u>Majorian</u>, Western Roman Empire</b></p><p>AE nummus</p><p><b>Obv</b>: D N IVL MAIORIANVS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped bust right</p><p><b>Rev</b>: VICTORI-A AVGGG, Victory advancing right, holding palm branch and trophy</p><p><b>Mint</b>: Milan</p><p><b>Mintmark</b>: MD</p><p><b>Date</b>: 457-461 AD</p><p><b>Ref</b>: RIC X 2642</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252Fproxy.php%2525253Fimage%2525253Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fi1197.photobucket.com%252525252Falbums%252525252Faa429%252525252FLurkingNinja%252525252Fmajoriannummus_zps9b39fa52.jpg%25252526hash%2525253D7fdf15cca48acc20ca5a17cc3c6cda2b%252526hash%25253Dbecd7438991186cbb5c0d1f6a22dce9e%2526hash%253D09b45f4afb62016b06bac2b36f3253e6%26hash%3D3af3adb2eaa22f8c570ce54bc1b71388&hash=22f345473f4b825c0dfa8f08b70a54ef" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Majorian is one of the very rare Western Roman emperors I mentioned above. Yes, even little bronze nummi coins of them can get pricey, due to their scarcity and the relative popularity of these hard-to-get emperors. On the obverse of mine you can see "N IVL MAIOR", with the "O" in the form of a simple dot (an distinctive feature of Majorian nummi). Oh and did I mention that Majorian is my favorite Roman emperor? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> At the beginning of his reign the collapsing Western Roman Empire only consisted of Italy and bits of Gaul but under his leadership, within 4 years the empire greatly expanded back into most of Gaul and Hispania, and he was about to mount an invasion to retake Carthage and the rest of North Africa from the Vandals. It was foiled due to treachery and soon after Majorian was betrayed and assassinated. Fifteen years later (in 476 AD), the Roman Empire in the west was no more.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ValiantKnight, post: 2681983, member: 44210"]Can't remember if this has been done already but I figure between newer members and new acquisitions over time it can't hurt to start this thread. As the title goes, post the top few ancient or medieval coins that really beat up your wallet, the ones that threw you in the doghouse or the wagon for a long time, the coins that could pay your ransom, you get the idea :D You don't need to disclose how much you paid (if you want to give at least an idea of how much put like "somewhat under $1000" or something), and if you'd like you could inform on what helps to make your coins as expensive as they are, and maybe what you had to do to get it. Also, I'd like to keep this at 5 or less coins per person and with the coins by order of their cost, but I won't nitpick about this. 1.) [B][U]Sisebut[/U], Visigothic Kingdom[/B] AV tremissis [B]Obv[/B]: + SISEBVTVS REX, bust facing [B]Rev[/B]: + TOLETO PIVS, bust facing [B]Mint[/B]: Toledo [B]Date[/B]: 612-621 AD [B]Ref[/B]: Miles 183a [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/sisebutvisigoth-jpg.570747/[/IMG] I originally bought a different one from Emerita mint but was instead sent this one. They were pretty much in the same condition and I had preferred one from the Visigothic capital of Toledo so I kept this one and didn't press the issue. Visigothic gold coins in general aren't prohibitively rare but are rare enough to make them usually more expensive than your typical Roman and Byzantine gold. 2.) [B][B][U]Jovinus[/U], Western Roman Empire[/B][/B] AR siliqua [B]Obv[/B]: D N IOVIN-VS P F AVG, Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right [B]Rev[/B]: VICTOR-IA AVGG, Roma seated left on stylized cuirass, holding Victory on globe and reversed spear [B]Mint[/B]: Lugdunum [B]Mintmark[/B]: SMLDV [B]Date[/B]: 411-413 AD [B]Ref[/B]: RIC X 1717 [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/jovinus_zpsgdobx5l3-jpg.570745/[/IMG] In addition to the horrendously-rare legitimate Western emperors of the 5th century like Julius Nepos, Glycerius, Priscus Attalus, etc. there are also the extremely rare usurpers as well. Jovinus is one of them. I wasn't up to speed on prices for Jovinus coins other than "he is rare enough where it would most likely take me years until I could afford one" but fortunately I came across this one at what i thought was a reasonable price, where the raising of the money within a reasonable amount of time was doable. All I need now is to find his brother Sebastianus in a unidentified lot :D 3.) [B][U]Justinian[/U], Byzantine Empire[/B] AV solidus [B]Obv[/B]: D N IVSTINI-ANVS P P AVG, helmeted, cuirassed bust facing, holding cross on globe and shield [B]Rev[/B]: VICTORI-A AVGGG delta, angel standing facing, holding P-headed cross and cross on globe, star in right field [B]Mint[/B]: Constantinople [B]Mintmark[/B]: CONOB [B]Date[/B]: 542-565 AD [B]Ref[/B]: SB 140 [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/justinianisolidus-jpg.570746/[/IMG] I feel like I am pretty picky when it comes to Byzantine gold. I could have settled for a "cheapo" one with an amateur-ish looking style and worn and clipped, but I wanted something better. With mine, the face is more lifelike (Justinian was compared in likeness to Domitian and I can see this on my coin), and there is great detail all around. 4.) [B][U]Maurice Tiberius[/U], Byzantine Empire[/B] AV solidus [B]Obv[/B]: D N mAVRC TIb PP AVC, diademed, helmeted, and cuirassed bust facing, holding globus cruciger in left hand [B]Rev[/B]: VICTORI-A AVGG ∆, Victory standing facing, holding long staff surmounted with staurogram in left hand and globus cruciger in right hand [B]Mint[/B]: Constantinople [B]Mintmark[/B]: CONOB [B]Date[/B]:582-602 AD [B]Ref[/B]: SB 476 [B]Size[/B]: 4.29 g., 21 mm wide [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/maurice-png.523475/[/IMG] The typical art style of Byzantine coins does not appeal to people as much to that of earlier Roman and Greek coins, but when done right it can still look attractive. In addition to the clear details on the profile, I was drawn in by the neatness of the whole thing, like nothing seems out of proportion or oddly-shaped or anything (compared to a lot of other Byzantine profiles that I see). 5.) [B][U]Majorian[/U], Western Roman Empire[/B] AE nummus [B]Obv[/B]: D N IVL MAIORIANVS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped bust right [B]Rev[/B]: VICTORI-A AVGGG, Victory advancing right, holding palm branch and trophy [B]Mint[/B]: Milan [B]Mintmark[/B]: MD [B]Date[/B]: 457-461 AD [B]Ref[/B]: RIC X 2642 [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cointalk.com%2Fproxy.php%3Fimage%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.cointalk.com%252Fproxy.php%253Fimage%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.cointalk.com%25252Fproxy.php%25253Fimage%25253Dhttps%2525253A%2525252F%2525252Fwww.cointalk.com%2525252Fproxy.php%2525253Fimage%2525253Dhttp%252525253A%252525252F%252525252Fi1197.photobucket.com%252525252Falbums%252525252Faa429%252525252FLurkingNinja%252525252Fmajoriannummus_zps9b39fa52.jpg%25252526hash%2525253D7fdf15cca48acc20ca5a17cc3c6cda2b%252526hash%25253Dbecd7438991186cbb5c0d1f6a22dce9e%2526hash%253D09b45f4afb62016b06bac2b36f3253e6%26hash%3D3af3adb2eaa22f8c570ce54bc1b71388&hash=22f345473f4b825c0dfa8f08b70a54ef[/IMG] Majorian is one of the very rare Western Roman emperors I mentioned above. Yes, even little bronze nummi coins of them can get pricey, due to their scarcity and the relative popularity of these hard-to-get emperors. On the obverse of mine you can see "N IVL MAIOR", with the "O" in the form of a simple dot (an distinctive feature of Majorian nummi). Oh and did I mention that Majorian is my favorite Roman emperor? :woot: At the beginning of his reign the collapsing Western Roman Empire only consisted of Italy and bits of Gaul but under his leadership, within 4 years the empire greatly expanded back into most of Gaul and Hispania, and he was about to mount an invasion to retake Carthage and the rest of North Africa from the Vandals. It was foiled due to treachery and soon after Majorian was betrayed and assassinated. Fifteen years later (in 476 AD), the Roman Empire in the west was no more.[/QUOTE]
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