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<p>[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1504508, member: 15929"]Read Here: <a href="http://www.ikegroup.info/?page_id=203" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ikegroup.info/?page_id=203" rel="nofollow">http://www.ikegroup.info/?page_id=203</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The "immediate" primary pickup on this coin, as with most Eisenhower Design Varieties, is the Reverse (RDV-007) which is shared by 1 other coin.</p><p>Of the 2 coins known to have this reverse, each has a different Obverse Design. Mine, Prototype 1 (as in first discovered) has ODV-010 while the other, Prototype 2, belongs to Charles Chatham (sluggo4787), has ODV-011.</p><p><br /></p><p>Both coins are solitary pop coins and it is believed that both coins were a part of the "design" process for the Eisenhower Dollar as trial strikes. Both coins exhibit proof qualities yet are not proof coins per se. Both coins were minted on specially prepared 40% silver planchets very much similar to the Kennedy (SMS) coins. All trial strikes were "scheduled" or "supposed" to be destroyed according to a letter, dated 1/25/2012, from the Department of the Treasury as shown in Appendix A of the Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollar (Wexler, Flynn, Crawford), but it appears now that this may not have been the case. To quote:</p><p><br /></p><p>"I(n) accordance to regulations, all of the prototype trial strikes must and will be destroyed by the Director's Committee."</p><p><br /></p><p>The key words here are "must" and "will" indicating that as of the date of the letter, the coins had not yet been destroyed. The "Director's Committee" is the Mint Director's Trial Strike Committee which was composed of the Director's Representative (unknown), the Superintendent of the Philadelphia Mint or his representative (unknown), the Chief Engraver (Frank Gasparro), and the Superintendent of the Coining Division (unknown). The "unknowns" are simply folks whose names I do not know.</p><p><br /></p><p>Since both of these coins are obviously special in both strike and design, and both carry the tell tale signs of die polish within the fields that is characteristic of specially prepared dies (very much similar to the 1964 SMS Coins), both can be assumed to be Prototype Trial Strikes. Without hard documentation or photographs, all that can be done is assume.</p><p><br /></p><p>There were some photographs shared with CoinAge and Numismatic Scrapbook in 1971 which were scanned from the ANA Library by a fellow collector.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=CONFIG]193540[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]193542[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]193539[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]193544[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>There are definite similarities from what was shown in 1971 to what was found in 2008 however, since no direct correlation between the photo's and the term prototype or trial strike exists in the article, it can still only be an educated assumption.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1504508, member: 15929"]Read Here: [URL]http://www.ikegroup.info/?page_id=203[/URL] The "immediate" primary pickup on this coin, as with most Eisenhower Design Varieties, is the Reverse (RDV-007) which is shared by 1 other coin. Of the 2 coins known to have this reverse, each has a different Obverse Design. Mine, Prototype 1 (as in first discovered) has ODV-010 while the other, Prototype 2, belongs to Charles Chatham (sluggo4787), has ODV-011. Both coins are solitary pop coins and it is believed that both coins were a part of the "design" process for the Eisenhower Dollar as trial strikes. Both coins exhibit proof qualities yet are not proof coins per se. Both coins were minted on specially prepared 40% silver planchets very much similar to the Kennedy (SMS) coins. All trial strikes were "scheduled" or "supposed" to be destroyed according to a letter, dated 1/25/2012, from the Department of the Treasury as shown in Appendix A of the Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollar (Wexler, Flynn, Crawford), but it appears now that this may not have been the case. To quote: "I(n) accordance to regulations, all of the prototype trial strikes must and will be destroyed by the Director's Committee." The key words here are "must" and "will" indicating that as of the date of the letter, the coins had not yet been destroyed. The "Director's Committee" is the Mint Director's Trial Strike Committee which was composed of the Director's Representative (unknown), the Superintendent of the Philadelphia Mint or his representative (unknown), the Chief Engraver (Frank Gasparro), and the Superintendent of the Coining Division (unknown). The "unknowns" are simply folks whose names I do not know. Since both of these coins are obviously special in both strike and design, and both carry the tell tale signs of die polish within the fields that is characteristic of specially prepared dies (very much similar to the 1964 SMS Coins), both can be assumed to be Prototype Trial Strikes. Without hard documentation or photographs, all that can be done is assume. There were some photographs shared with CoinAge and Numismatic Scrapbook in 1971 which were scanned from the ANA Library by a fellow collector. [ATTACH=CONFIG]193540[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]193542[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]193539[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]193544[/ATTACH] There are definite similarities from what was shown in 1971 to what was found in 2008 however, since no direct correlation between the photo's and the term prototype or trial strike exists in the article, it can still only be an educated assumption.[/QUOTE]
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