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<p>[QUOTE="messydesk, post: 3993307, member: 1765"]Indeed, I tied for first with Ron Guth out of 103 participants. The scoring was such that you got 5 points for a correct answer, and 1 to 3 if you were close. Ron got 2 more correct than I did (he got 7, I got 5), but he also totally missed 2 more (he missed 3, I missed 1). So I guess I had a tighter grouping? </p><p><br /></p><p>As Jason said, it was a tough box to grade with a rather diverse assortment of coins. A few of us discussed the coins with the Paul (person doing the contest) from NGC, so I have a little insight as to what was there. Going from memory and Jason's cues, there were three Morgan dollars. One was an 80-S in 68 (I may have said 67) and one was an 85-CC in 61 (I think I said 62). Another was an 89-P with an added CC, which jumped out at me due to the strike not looking at all like a genuine 89-CC, which are disproportionately PL, by the way. The only gold was a proof 68 or 69 Iranian bullion coin. There was a really neat bronze medal with high relief that graded 66BN. I think I got this one right. The killer coin of the bunch was a 1788 Massachusetts cent. I wanted to grade it 66, but couldn't bring myself to do it so I said 65. It was a 66. Drop-dead gorgeous piece that is a $50,000 coin. Paul said many thought it was too good to be true and called it AU58 or fake. The seated coins were an XF40 half dime and a VF25 quarter. I think I got them both right. A 1798 cent graded VG8 that I graded 10, but was close to calling details for porosity and borderline damage. A toned Barber dime graded 62, which was hard to grade because of the toning, but careful inspection revealed both the hairlines and the fact that the luster wasn't broken. A double-struck 2 Anna with 2nd strike off center was pretty cool. I think it graded 65 and I called it 64. The California commemorative was counterfeit. The proof South African coin was PR68. I called it 67. They wouldn't put an attractive AT coin in there, probably because it's too controversial of a statement. The one I had the biggest disagreement with, as did others in the discussion, was an Isabella quarter, which they graded 67. It was very attractive, but not a 67 by a long shot. I called it 65, as did another contestant. There was also a shattered die Civil War token that graded 58. The rub on the coin was only visible on the die breaks.</p><p><br /></p><p>That's 15. NGC will be putting up an article with pictures of the coins and their comments.</p><p><br /></p><p>One comment I had was that there were no US moderns, and none of the notoriously tough US coins like 3c silver, buffalo nickels and $2.50 or $5 Indians. I also said they should put a hammered coin, like a Henry VIII groat or half-groat, if they want to mess with people, but there's only so much you can cover with 15 coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1051478[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="messydesk, post: 3993307, member: 1765"]Indeed, I tied for first with Ron Guth out of 103 participants. The scoring was such that you got 5 points for a correct answer, and 1 to 3 if you were close. Ron got 2 more correct than I did (he got 7, I got 5), but he also totally missed 2 more (he missed 3, I missed 1). So I guess I had a tighter grouping? As Jason said, it was a tough box to grade with a rather diverse assortment of coins. A few of us discussed the coins with the Paul (person doing the contest) from NGC, so I have a little insight as to what was there. Going from memory and Jason's cues, there were three Morgan dollars. One was an 80-S in 68 (I may have said 67) and one was an 85-CC in 61 (I think I said 62). Another was an 89-P with an added CC, which jumped out at me due to the strike not looking at all like a genuine 89-CC, which are disproportionately PL, by the way. The only gold was a proof 68 or 69 Iranian bullion coin. There was a really neat bronze medal with high relief that graded 66BN. I think I got this one right. The killer coin of the bunch was a 1788 Massachusetts cent. I wanted to grade it 66, but couldn't bring myself to do it so I said 65. It was a 66. Drop-dead gorgeous piece that is a $50,000 coin. Paul said many thought it was too good to be true and called it AU58 or fake. The seated coins were an XF40 half dime and a VF25 quarter. I think I got them both right. A 1798 cent graded VG8 that I graded 10, but was close to calling details for porosity and borderline damage. A toned Barber dime graded 62, which was hard to grade because of the toning, but careful inspection revealed both the hairlines and the fact that the luster wasn't broken. A double-struck 2 Anna with 2nd strike off center was pretty cool. I think it graded 65 and I called it 64. The California commemorative was counterfeit. The proof South African coin was PR68. I called it 67. They wouldn't put an attractive AT coin in there, probably because it's too controversial of a statement. The one I had the biggest disagreement with, as did others in the discussion, was an Isabella quarter, which they graded 67. It was very attractive, but not a 67 by a long shot. I called it 65, as did another contestant. There was also a shattered die Civil War token that graded 58. The rub on the coin was only visible on the die breaks. That's 15. NGC will be putting up an article with pictures of the coins and their comments. One comment I had was that there were no US moderns, and none of the notoriously tough US coins like 3c silver, buffalo nickels and $2.50 or $5 Indians. I also said they should put a hammered coin, like a Henry VIII groat or half-groat, if they want to mess with people, but there's only so much you can cover with 15 coins. [ATTACH=full]1051478[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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