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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1612849, member: 112"]I'm not voicing an opinion on whether the coin being discussed is AT or NT. But I think it is worthwhile to mention color patterns. The color pattern on that Jeff, is not unusual. In fact it is rather common. Here's the Jeff, and here's a Buffalo that is very similar. And it shows yellow, red, blue, purple.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]228305.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]228306.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now the Buffalo has been graded & slabbed so rather obviously the TPG found it market acceptable. Many other coins with the same color pattern have also been graded and slabbed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the thing, yes the rainbow spectrum comes in a defined pattern, a defined sequence. Problem is, sometimes not all of the bands of color are readily or easily visible. But that does not mean those colors are not there. Example, look at that Jeff pic again, between the 2 red lines I drew on it. The entire color spectrum, in correct sequence, is visible between those 2 red lines. But the bands of color are very narrow. At other places on the coin you really can't see all of the colors - because in those places the bands are too narrow to be easily seen. But the colors are there, they are just thinner than a hair.</p><p><br /></p><p>When coins tone sometimes some of the color bands are compressed and very, very, thin while other color bands are very wide. So when we look at them it appears that some of the colors are missing and the color sequence is incorrect. The key word is appears. So it can look like the color sequence is out of order, when it really isn't.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the normal color sequence - </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]228307.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>But what happens when the spectrum is repeated is that the colors at opposite ends of the spectrum start all over again. In other words, red starts next to purple, or vice versa.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now look at this image of the color spectrum - </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]228308.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The colors are all there, but they are in very, very, thin lines. And those lines can be compressed even tighter.</p><p><br /></p><p>I guess the point I am trying to get across is that with toned coins you are not always going to see (with your eyes anyway) the entire color spectrum. It can look as if some colors are missing and the sequence is wrong. So don't put too much faith in that aspect. What is more important is familiarity, experience, with how toned coins can and often do look. Some color patterns are more common than others, and some are very scarce. And there are some that are even unique - you may not have ever seen them before. But being scarce or even unique does not mean they are man-made (AT).</p><p><br /></p><p>Mother nature can do anything that man can do, and some things that man cannot yet do. It would pay to keep that in mind when viewing toned coins and making a decision to accept them, or not.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1612849, member: 112"]I'm not voicing an opinion on whether the coin being discussed is AT or NT. But I think it is worthwhile to mention color patterns. The color pattern on that Jeff, is not unusual. In fact it is rather common. Here's the Jeff, and here's a Buffalo that is very similar. And it shows yellow, red, blue, purple. [ATTACH]228305.vB[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]228306.vB[/ATTACH] Now the Buffalo has been graded & slabbed so rather obviously the TPG found it market acceptable. Many other coins with the same color pattern have also been graded and slabbed. Here's the thing, yes the rainbow spectrum comes in a defined pattern, a defined sequence. Problem is, sometimes not all of the bands of color are readily or easily visible. But that does not mean those colors are not there. Example, look at that Jeff pic again, between the 2 red lines I drew on it. The entire color spectrum, in correct sequence, is visible between those 2 red lines. But the bands of color are very narrow. At other places on the coin you really can't see all of the colors - because in those places the bands are too narrow to be easily seen. But the colors are there, they are just thinner than a hair. When coins tone sometimes some of the color bands are compressed and very, very, thin while other color bands are very wide. So when we look at them it appears that some of the colors are missing and the color sequence is incorrect. The key word is appears. So it can look like the color sequence is out of order, when it really isn't. This is the normal color sequence - [ATTACH]228307.vB[/ATTACH] But what happens when the spectrum is repeated is that the colors at opposite ends of the spectrum start all over again. In other words, red starts next to purple, or vice versa. Now look at this image of the color spectrum - [ATTACH]228308.vB[/ATTACH] The colors are all there, but they are in very, very, thin lines. And those lines can be compressed even tighter. I guess the point I am trying to get across is that with toned coins you are not always going to see (with your eyes anyway) the entire color spectrum. It can look as if some colors are missing and the sequence is wrong. So don't put too much faith in that aspect. What is more important is familiarity, experience, with how toned coins can and often do look. Some color patterns are more common than others, and some are very scarce. And there are some that are even unique - you may not have ever seen them before. But being scarce or even unique does not mean they are man-made (AT). Mother nature can do anything that man can do, and some things that man cannot yet do. It would pay to keep that in mind when viewing toned coins and making a decision to accept them, or not.[/QUOTE]
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