LOL.................I'm of the opinion that I like beauty and an artistic flair in a coins design. It's kinda hard to make most of our presidents portraits beautiful.....................Now some of the First Ladies....................Yes.................LOL Kinda like lookin at the portraits of a lot of the old " ROYAL " families ( the Kings,Dukes....etc.) in a hundred or couple hundred years our presidents are gonna look funky to the collector of the day. But something like lady liberty on a Walking Liberty half she is still going to be a beauty...........till well when no one collects coins anymore.................LOL. In other words she and other coins with that Artistic deisgn of liberty and freedom will endure. Just my opinion but if a person has shined above and beyond, done something worthy of commemorating then there portrait should go on a commemorative issue. I thank GDJMSP stated it in a similiar fashion.
Don't you think after a while of nothing but Lady Liberties on all of our coins, that it would get kinda boring?
CoinJoe, thats not what I said. " The artistic ideal of liberty and Justice" not just lady liberty........................................LOL Hang in there buddy
I know. But the idea would get old after a while. There are new presidents every 4-8 years, which gives the mint something to work with, if need be.
Don't mind Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. Three presidents, yes, but also three men who helped define and shape this nation. I don't think anyone from the 20th century on should be on a coin. I'd replace Roosevelt and Kennedy with some allegorical figure of freedom. Also I'd switch the $1 coin to that liberty design we've seen often on this forum. Just my "opinion" Bill
Quote: Originally posted by METALMAN, If we put presidents on the coins ,lets just have the ones who had sex with an intern Im sure that is a great Historical moment that needs to be remembered on a coin, or maybe the ones whos brother urinated on the whitehouse lawn, or was caught burglarizing hotel rooms. or maybe the ones who took away the peoples right to own gold bullion ? ----------------------------------- In my opinion, This is a good reason NOT to put people on your circulating coinage. People are fallible but the ideals of this great country are worth striving for. Our fore fathers did not want their likeness on US coins, because in the rest of the world only monarchs or dictators were depicted on coins. They wanted this country to stand for something better than absolutism. I believe that commerative coins are the place for your presidents. If I wanted an actor on a US coin I would at least choose a good one. I would rather see Huey, Dewey & Louie on a coin than Ronald Reagan. IN MY OPINION Dave
Let's see...something that represents ALL of America (Liberty, Freedom, Majasty) or something like this: I'm sold...I was wrong...all of the President mugs will do a better job representing our country than Lady Liberty...or some new depiction of her. Silly me...
No. It probably is best on third world countries as a means of communicating who is currently in charge". cdb1950. Lol "There is no right or wrong in a discussion like this - there is only opinion." GD. Yes I agree GD however, my opinion is "more" correct of course.....like that hasn't been said before. But still true in my case. Now for the survey, I say no to the Presidents. I don't see anything to gain from a president series. The State Quarters had something to teach in regards to geography and sorry Jody but it also reinforced the idea of the Republic, many states one nation. Where are you anyway? But what use would a presidential series be? Their is an old saying that this nation survives being a democracy despite our presidents for there is always at least 45% of the nation that disagrees with whoever is in charge and besides our nation is not about The CEO of the company but what our company stands for and what it produces. Which is mainly the idea of democracy. So lets have an image of a hot babe with long legs and flowing hair strutting with a wink in her eye. Now that would look alot better then a Truman or a Reagan coin, who I both respect but wouldn't want to carry around in my pants pocket.
I'm with you Andy...a new depiction of Lady Liberty with the hair, legs, torch, shield...bring it on. She will represent ALL of us as she has done in the past.
Thats because less than half of the people vote. They don't vote, then a person that they don't like gets into office, then they complain. If they didn't vote, then they shouldn't complain. They have the right to, but since they didn't take their time to vote, I wouldnt take my time to listen.
____________________________________________ Now for the survey, I say no to the Presidents. I don't see anything to gain from a president series. The State Quarters had something to teach in regards to geography and sorry Jody but it also reinforced the idea of the Republic, many states one nation. Where are you anyway? But what use would a presidential series be? Their is an old saying that this nation survives being a democracy despite our presidents for there is always at least 45% of the nation that disagrees with whoever is in charge and besides our nation is not about The CEO of the company but what our company stands for and what it produces. Which is mainly the idea of democracy. So lets have an image of a hot babe with long legs and flowing hair strutting with a wink in her eye. Now that would look alot better then a Truman or a Reagan coin, who I both respect but wouldn't want to carry around in my pants pocket. ____________________________________________ Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeee ! ! ! I'm with these guys. I can't help keeping the artistic ideal of liberty, freedom and Justice represented in not just ours but all nations coinage that value personal freedom. The same one that lets us have this very discussion and forum!
I believe that throughout the history of the United States, it has always been the heroic deeds and sacrifices of the American people that made America great. These deeds and sacrifices were inspired by ideals, not politicians. We, the people, (you and I) and our ideals are the things that make America great and that is what should be honored on our coinage, as that is a symbol of America that the people see and use every day. To me, when it comes time to design a coin, these most important cornerstones of American greatness are put aside when politicians are put ahead of artistic representaions of American ideals. Besides, not every American votes for or agrees with the politicians on coins, but just about every American believes in the ideals America represents. Putting politicians on coinage isn't the best representation of the American people, only that segment of society that thinks a particular politician is good. But, almost everyone has their own idea of what America is and that can be represented for everyone when Liberty is depicted on coinage. While it is true that some politicians have made the ultimate sacrifice while in service to their country (Kennedy and Lincoln come to mind), I believe medals and commemoratives are sufficient to honor these politicians and military leaders.
I would vote no to presidents on our coinage. Dead presidents heads makes for pretty boring coinage. Their placement on commemoratives would be OK though. I would like to see some quality artistic designs for our coinage. Think of what US coins you consider to be the most attractive artistically. (Any presidents come to mind? - probably not!) Lady Liberty had been very successful in the past and I kinda miss seeing her on a daily basis (hope that doesn't date me too badly). Some wildlife could also be possible candidates - buffalo, eagle, condor, giant redwood, even snakes (such as variations of the "Don't Tread On Me" or "Beware" designs). National treasures, artifacts, historical depictions (U.S.S. Constitution, the flag, White House, Civil War cannon, Washington crossing the Delaware, etc.) could also be done in an attractive fashion. I would also like to see the return of the wreath or circle of stars to a design. There are other designs (such as an Indian head) I feel would be well suited, but I think I've suggested enough to cover the current denominations, lol. I agree that the presidents were important leaders of our country, but I can not imagine a much more bland theme of design.
Here, here...I agree. As much as I do not want actual people (especially those that lived within the last 100 years) gracing American coins, we have nice ventures for these Americans with commemorative coins and medals. For instance, here is Carter's inaugural medal: These serve purpose to those collectors that want to see ALL of the presidents on American coins.
I didn't particularly like Jimmy Carter, though I wouldn't argue about putting him on a coin, simply because he is a president But then again, I can't really say I didnt like him, because I wasnt alive when he was president, I dont like some of the things I've heard about him.
You're lucky you weren't around when he was President. My first car loan for a new car over 36 months with 20% down was 18.75% annual interest. Inflation was out of control. He was a brilliant man who was surrounded by idiot advisers (i.e., Burt Lance). Americans were held hostage for 444 days in Iran and the whole country had a down, negative, attitude. Smart man that is probably our best ex-President as he continues to work for Habitat for Humanity along with other great causes. As for his presidency...I will be nice and keep my opinion to myself.
Remember that you are talking about men who wrote, "according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, . . . and excluding Indians . . ., [and] three fifths of all other Persons. (US Constitution Art. I, Sec. 2, Clause 3) (emphasis mine) Basically, free white MEN count as 1 each, "Indians" count as nothing and "all other persons" (read slaves) count as 3/5 of a person!! Sounds equal to me!!! Well maybe not. Please remember that history is ALWAYS written by the victor. Just because we honor Washington/Jefferson/John Jay, doesn't mean that everyone does (or even should). For an interesting foray into the counterfactual you might want to read "For Want of a Nail" by Robert Sobel. It is the standard counterfactual (what if) work of US history. It describes what happens to the "traitors" (Washington, Jefferson, et al.) who tried to seperate from the Mother country and had to be put down with force. ( And then goes on to speculate about how North America would have developed politically). My point is that even in the context of their time the founding fathers weren't flawless even though the ideals that we want our country to stand for should be. Thus I voted no to actual people on coins.
I'll keep it short and sweet ......... Now I'll keep it short & sweet. The discussion will remain civil and there will be NO personal attacks. Or this thread will end - period. GDJMSP
