Yes folks icg got it right

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by rascal, Dec 16, 2011.

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  1. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    I've already expressed my opinion, which is in line with everyone else's (except the OP).
     
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  3. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    If it was so private, why drag a nameless person onto a public forum in the first place?
     
  4. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I can easily see you newbies that are just now starting to learn about coins calling almost every coin that is shown on this CT forum PMD. You folks that have been collecting and studying error and variety coins for ten years or longer should know better and stop doing this. this does not bother me but it probably causes some new collectors to get rid of a real error coin or maybe completely give up on the hobby. That's why I came here , I saw what was going on . I'm here to help the new folks that are interested in error coins and trying to start learning about them.
    If someone has a coin they want to show on here then stop worrying about what some of these folks says about you or your coin and feel free to show it on the forum.
     
  5. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    hey why dont you start you own website:hail:
     
  6. DW-coins

    DW-coins Slave to coins...

    Maybe it would help the newbies if you were to post a photo of an error coin? You know, so they could see what an error coin looks like.
     
  7. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Good idea and I already have been thinking about it,plus my wife keeps asking me to start our own site. One of my son's knows how to do this so I may get him to help me. He had his own website about Indian artifacts and got tired of it . I'm just too old fashioned and don't know as much about computers as this new computer age generation does.
     
  8. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    The reason there are so many PMD responses is because there are so many coins presented by newbies that are PMD. In a lot of cases they have to be taught the difference between legitimate mint errors and coins that have Post Mint Damage. How many times have pics of coins with obvious post mint damage been posted and the newbie argues the point because he was misled into thinking he had a true error by an unscruplous seller. The auction sites are full of these and it's nice to have a site like Coin Talk where a newbie can be instructed and guided by experienced collectors and members so they won't be ripped off in the future.
     
  9. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I totally agree with what you wrote but what bothers me is when a coin that is shown on here that is easy to identify as a error coin and then almost everyone right away calls it PMD , this is bad. I believe you know what I'm trying to say. If folks would stop acting like this is some kind of a game and trying to see who is first to reply then this may not happen very much.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Can you show us an example other then your coins where this has happened?
     
  11. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

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    An example would be nice.
     
  12. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Actually Troy, this is good and should be expected which is why there are error "experts". Mike Diamond and others have corrected me on more than one occasion which actually turned out to be a learning experience for "me".

    It's all a part of the "discussion" aspect of an open forum.

    I think that Folks understand or have observed that a bulk of newbie reports are often the same old PMD examples which generate the same old responses. Those newbies that have a real interest are NOT discouraged from continuing to look once an adequate explanation is given. Instead, they strive to get a better understanding of the minting process and how error's are actually created.

    If anything at all, your consistently defensive posture with regard to your opinions on the subject coin is what has caused your threads to explode with cynicism. Folks do not know you from Jack but trust the explanations of published error experts.

    If an in hand examination is what caused you to believe that this coin was authentic then I see absolutely no reason why it was not sent off to CONECA for their "in hand examination". Until that occurs, your credibility will always be in question simply because folks do not know who you are or exectly what your specific qualifications are other than to simply "take your word for it"..
     
  13. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Great! I hear that the software required to start and have your own "forum" is not really that expensive and that way you could perhaps even start up your own error coin validation services. Others have done it in the past and maybe the time is right?

    Good Luck on your endeavor!
     
  14. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    There are certainly more free open source available ones than ones you buy or pay support for, which are quite frankly, just as good or even better. I could get a forum up in about 5-10 minutes without any custom images or logos, it's that easy. That's including registering a domain name, okay, maybe a little longer for the DNS replication to take place but still.. ;)
     
  15. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I think it's a good idea, too! You won't have to spread your drivel here, and YOU​ get to be right all of the time!

    A win/win situation for everyone!
     
  16. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    http://www.forumer.com/

    Have fun!
     
  17. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Not a problem and remember you asked me for it so don't blame me . Is this thread enough or do you need some more.


    http://www.cointalk.com/t196214/
     
  18. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    And you see no difference between that thread and this one?
     
  19. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    No one was talking about a diffenence between threads.
     
  20. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Of the 46 replies to the linked thread, I saw exactly one which stated PMD without offering a rational explanation for why the statement was being made.

    So, of those 46 replies only the one "might" fall into your category. All of the others (excluding your dissing on the folks who offered their opinions) were discussional up to the point where better photo's were provided by the OP.

    After that, congratulations and encouragement to have the coin evaluated by a professional were posted.

    Please find some other thread to support your claims.
     
  21. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Great example! I gave an honest opinion from the pictures and when better ones were presented you can see where I was the first to admit that I was not correct. See Rascal, I have no problem admitting when I am not correct.
     
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