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<p>[QUOTE="Coinchemistry 2012, post: 2595108, member: 28107"]EBay publicly has a policy that replica and counterfeit coins are not allowed to be sold at all on its website. It also has a reporting system that purportedly allows you to report the items, although it is inefficient and in many cases arguably doesn't give you an opportunity to report the reason at all. On its face, to someone who has never ever used the website or is only aware tangentially of the operation of its reporting system and policy, it can create the false appearance that eBay is making a good faith effort.</p><p><br /></p><p>The relevant provisions of the HPA targeting those that aide people selling non-HPA compliant pieces were added in 2014, and additional rules promulgated by the FTC didn't take effect until a month ago. Now that the FTC has gone through the public comments/rule making process and has issued its own rules and guidance, I suspect that it will begin taking enforcement more seriously, but it will probably take a complaint to push eBay to change its reporting system and clarify its existing policy. It doesn't help that to someone who is unaware of the case law and statutes (i.e. those charged with enforcing eBay policy), it might not always be clear under current guidance what is legally problematic or not. Also, for truly convincing counterfeits, there will always be coins that fall through the cracks. The best that can be done is to improve the reporting system so that problematic listings that are flagged are removed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, it is worth noting that the only problem that is curable through eBay is improving the reporting system. There will always be people that post counterfeits, and it is impossible to stop it 24/7 with 100% accuracy. The government won't punish those trying to comply in good faith. As such, it makes sense to specifically address the problem (the counterfeiters/ minters themselves) or else you are merely putting a band aid on it. Moreover, you will never be able to stop the Chinese operating overseas.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, I would hang on to the counterfeit and study it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Coinchemistry 2012, post: 2595108, member: 28107"]EBay publicly has a policy that replica and counterfeit coins are not allowed to be sold at all on its website. It also has a reporting system that purportedly allows you to report the items, although it is inefficient and in many cases arguably doesn't give you an opportunity to report the reason at all. On its face, to someone who has never ever used the website or is only aware tangentially of the operation of its reporting system and policy, it can create the false appearance that eBay is making a good faith effort. The relevant provisions of the HPA targeting those that aide people selling non-HPA compliant pieces were added in 2014, and additional rules promulgated by the FTC didn't take effect until a month ago. Now that the FTC has gone through the public comments/rule making process and has issued its own rules and guidance, I suspect that it will begin taking enforcement more seriously, but it will probably take a complaint to push eBay to change its reporting system and clarify its existing policy. It doesn't help that to someone who is unaware of the case law and statutes (i.e. those charged with enforcing eBay policy), it might not always be clear under current guidance what is legally problematic or not. Also, for truly convincing counterfeits, there will always be coins that fall through the cracks. The best that can be done is to improve the reporting system so that problematic listings that are flagged are removed. Finally, it is worth noting that the only problem that is curable through eBay is improving the reporting system. There will always be people that post counterfeits, and it is impossible to stop it 24/7 with 100% accuracy. The government won't punish those trying to comply in good faith. As such, it makes sense to specifically address the problem (the counterfeiters/ minters themselves) or else you are merely putting a band aid on it. Moreover, you will never be able to stop the Chinese operating overseas. Finally, I would hang on to the counterfeit and study it.[/QUOTE]
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