Years after new laws and ebay policies, Fake Morgans still flooding ebay

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by RobertcStevens002, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Of the thousands of bad listings that were taken down due to the activities of the unpaid consultants, other listings were taken down by eBay itself due to other listing violations. They threw the baby and it's siblings out with the bath water.

    Jeff nailed it...
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well at the hospital they still call us the "admitting girls". We have a couple in their twenties, several in their 40's, and a couple in their 50's and we don't consider it disrespectful. I've been "one of the girls" for over 23 years and I don't find it disrespectful. (Which is kind of odd being 56 and male.)
     
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  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Taking care not to give offense is a good policy, but refusing to take offense is the best policy.
     
  5. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Something that has not been mention as yet regarding disrespect is intent. What I posted in post #24 was not intended to be disrespectful. On the other hand post #32 was intended to be disrespectful.
     
  6. Rushmore

    Rushmore Coin Addict

    Why cant eBay just ban sellers from China?
     
  7. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    There are many categories that would all but disappear if this were to happen. Too much ebay/ paypal revenue would be lost.
     
  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    For the same reason we don't ban driving because some people drink, drive and have fatal accidents.
     
  9. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Actually, that's part of the problem. What you INTEND is not clear, especially in non-verbal communications such as the internet which lack most of the social cues. Even face-to-face, some people don't pick-up the cues.

    So the best policy is to avoid terms that might give offense. It's not always possible and it's not always perfect. But people respect you more if they know you try, despite your upbringing.
     
  10. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I'm trying to discern what you are trying to say about yourself.
     
  11. Santinidollar

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    Go check out the new thread. Some jerk got 10 months in federal prison for peddling counterfeit Morgans. At least it's a good start.
     
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  12. goldcollector

    goldcollector Member

    LOL. None of these coins even looks close. They wouldn't pass the laugh test. The counterfeiters better do better than this.
     
  13. goldcollector

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    That 1906 -- is that a 1906 ASE or a 1906 WLH ?
     
  14. Burton Strauss III

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  16. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    It's interesting that his name is "Sithole".
     
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  17. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    Maybe more education is required for the dumbo`s that buy them.
    In most other countries the buyers know their own countries coins and can detect a forgery without the help of a grading company.
    The counterfeiters obviously exploit the ignorant.
     
  18. Oldrdawg

    Oldrdawg Active Member

    The culprit had thousands of the counterfeit coins confiscated when the police searched his home. I'm amazed and disappointed that the guy assumes/knows there are thousands of folks out there (or at least hundreds -- presuming multiple purchasers) who will fall prey to this scam. Some of the victims were pawn shops (who buy coins all the time), which makes me think they were fairly good copies.
     
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I think his schtick was selling "collections" to wholesale buyers. At least, the cases which have been prosecuted in the past (this isn't the first) were that way. There's too much individual exposure to risk to sell them a few pieces at a time on Ebay, for instance. And not all wholesale buyers are that well-educated, either.

    Maybe the guy blew his tax return one year on a stockpile of fakes. :)
     
  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    The additional good news is that the IRS will be checking his tax returns. When he pleaded guilty, he had to admit that the government's allegations were true and correct. The IRS can use that. Hopefully, when he gets out of prison, he'll be a pauper.:p
     
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