XF or AU

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by saltysam-1, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    AU ? Not for my money . Call it whatever you like, but " Wear " is wear , and this coin has visible and recognizable wear IMHO.
     
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  3. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    I'm going AU53
     
  4. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    How do you know it's wear and not strike or die erosion? You'd have to see it in hand, wouldn't you agree?
    Lance.
     
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Granted it does have wear, but AU coins can have wear. Now on a AU58 coin it might be tough to see in a picture. I have no problem with you calling XF and others calling AU - all just opinions and those might change with the coin in hand.
     
  6. smokeriderdon

    smokeriderdon New Member

    AU HAS to have wear. AU has been circulated. Circulated for any length of time means wear. AU just means it wasnt in circulation very long and has very little wear and some luster left. So based solely on this pic, it could be very high XF to mid AU. To me it looks like AU 55.
     
  7. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    huh???

    An AU coin is one where the luster has disturbances on the highest points of the design. An XF coin has clear breaks in luster and wear on the highest points. A coin that has been in circulation may be correctly graded as Mint State (uncirculated) if there are no traces of any wear. Where it has been has nothing to do with the grade. Condition has everything to do with the grade.
     
  8. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    exactly right, leadfoot. Missing detail doesn't necessarily mean wear. It is often just a poor strike that leaves details soft, mushy, or sometimes missing
     
  9. Coinguy56

    Coinguy56 Member

    I will say AU-50 to 53. Due to the color and lighting, it makes the coin a bit tough to judge to me.
     
  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Like another poster mentioned "Wear" even a little will push an A/U grade down to XF
    Depending on who you use could matter greatly!
     
  11. Kevo

    Kevo Junior Member


    " Popular concention notwithstanding, the diamonds cannot be used as a grading marker " As written by QDB
     
  12. smokeriderdon

    smokeriderdon New Member

    Its a bit more than simple luster disturbence. That can happen and still be an MS. It neeeds to have signs of wear, just some and it makes it down to AU. Almost Uncirculated. ie slightly circulated. That was my point. The simple fact is if it has wear, it has been circulated. So grade and where it has been do indeed go hand in hand.
     
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