WW2 German Coin Set

Kurt's comment likewise reminded me of the black market Levi's story.

Which in turn (though I'm not sure why) reminded me of the classic Wendy's Russian Fashion Show commercial from the 1980s.

 

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"Ees next, svimvear."

 

Right, hardly any were actually produced. But we know the designs from photos, so yes, people who desperately want to own "Hitler coins" need to resort to fakes. Or buy one of the (maaany) medals with his portrait ...

Christian

 

Why would anyone mint/fake these rather common coins?

 

Is "Endsieg" ending of WWII, Rheingold ? I have 6 coins with A.H. But I don't approve of him any more than of other genocidal maniacs. And 1 coin of A.H. and Musso. Also a Munich coin with A.H., Musso, Neville C. and Daladier.

To LordM. The Moon is made of Cheese. Why ? Because I say so. - Evidence helps convince people. I may be the world's greatest scientist. But if I don't convince others of my thoughts and work, I may be wasting my time. The halo of expertise is useless, unless that expertise is communicated to others. Nothing to suggest these coins are fake ? Very often, fake coins, in order to con people, are made to look genuine.

 

Sounds like you have one of the tokens, medals or fantasy pieces and not a coin.

I agree with @lordmarcovan . If you would have taken a little time to check sites like the NGC world Coin Price Guide, or Numismaster, it would have been apparent that many of the OPs coins are as common as Wheat Cents in the US or Pre-decimal English Pennies. There is nothing wrong with your question regarding the authenticity. That's a great way for inexperienced collectors to learn. But when an inexperienced collector starts calling out others for being irresponsible without doing a little homework first, one has to wonder about their validity.

 

Oldhoopster, you are more than welcome to agree with anyone you wish, just as I am, too. You speak of a great way for inexperienced collectors to learn. You forget one point that is absolutely crucial - that experienced collectors also need to learn. Ask yourself whether you are being responsible, or irresponsible, in how you go about your own homework.

 

"I keep six honest serving-men
(They taught me all I knew);
Their names are What and Why and When
And How and Where and Who."

(Rudyard Kipling).

 

Here's a piece in rather good shape.

 

You may very well have medals that depict Hitler, Mussolini, etc. - you cannot have any such coins, as there are none. And yes, there are some nazi coins that have been counterfeited a lot. That does not really affect the ones shown in the initial post though (and they were not reproduced in West Germany later) but primarily the Litzmannstadt Getto (Łódź) coins ...

Christian

 

I apologize if I categorized you as an inexperienced collector. However, I would have expected an experienced collector, who may not be knowledgeable of the particular subject matter to have asked the question in a more productive way. Maybe something to the effect “I think the lettering is different” or “the devices don’t look that they match genuine coins I saw on [web site or reference book]”, or even a reference or link to some articles indicating that there are concerns about the authenticity of this type of coin. This sort of thing is done all the time on CT, when people have questions about Chinese counterfeits.

Unfortunately, to demand that someone go back to first principles and prove the authenticity of a common, low value coin without a history of counterfeiting, is blatantly ridiculous, especially after acknowledging that you know very little about the subject and haven’t provided any supporting information to warrant it.

Once again, if you have any information that makes you believe these coins could be counterfeits, please present that as part of the discussion. Articles or Links? Even your personal observations about how a specific area of the coin looks different than what you’ve seen in the past can be a very useful starting point for a discussion that can provide a lot of information to new and experienced collectors alike. What makes you believe that they could be fakes?

Based on this, I would hope that you would reconsider the use of "irresponsible" in the previous posts.

 

Yes, I don't know where Bert got his education, general or numismatic, but according to everything I have ever been taught, the burden of proof is on Bert, not the Hoopster.

It is Bert who is making the "outside of the norm" claim here. You don't get to yell "show me the evidence" of the generally accepted truth.

 

That is the single nicest Third Reich era 1 Mark I have yet seen. So many are so damaged.

 

Firstly, Kurt's opinion is that the burden of proof is on me. And, whatever my education, I'm making the "outside of the norm" claim. To me, that is a great compliment, although I do realise that more conformist minded individuals wouldn't share my view, incl. the Guardian of the Farce & Dead-Eye Master. - Oldhoopster appears concerned about classing me as an inexperienced collector. But that is exactly what I am, and I have acknowledged that on numerous occasions. However, I consider myself a fairly good researcher, in various areas, incl., perhaps, history. It is almost amusing that I have defended Nazi Germany's coinage, and also attacked it, and in both situations I have had to be on the defensive. My present problem is, not so much whether or not those, allegedly, coins are genuine or not, but I have over-reached myself in discussion here. I realise that anything to do with Nazi Germany is a sensitive matter. I might, possibly, chip in with the odd (very odd !) comment here, if I may. Otherwise, the Sorcerers are welcome, if they so wish, to take over, whilst this Apprentice is more than happy to occupy less of the dangerous front line.

 

... and STILL Bert fails to state what it is/was that initially gave him pause regarding the genuineness of the OP's coins.

Shaking. My. Head.

By the way, I'm still curious as to what it was.

 

Jabberwocky by Lewis Carroll.

"Twas brillig and the slithy toves
Did gyre ang gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

And hast thou slain the Jabberwock ? - - -
And the mome raths outgrabe."