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<p>[QUOTE="Nemo, post: 2690758, member: 58462"]Nice pick ups Sallent, I especially like the denarius. Here are a few from my collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]603455[/ATTACH]</p><p>27 BC-AD 14. AR Denarius. Lugdunum mint. Struck 2 BC-AD 4.</p><p>O: Laureate head right</p><p>R: Caius and Lucius Caesars standing facing, holding shields and spears between them; simpulum and lituus above.</p><p>- RIC I 207; Lyon 82; RSC 43</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]603457[/ATTACH]</p><p>27 BC-AD 14. AR Denarius. Lugdunum mint. Struck 2 BC-AD 4.</p><p>O: CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI F PATER PATRIAE Head, laureate, to right</p><p>R: AVGVSTI F COS DESIG PRINC IVVENT; C L CAESARES in ex; Gaius and Lucius Caesar standing facing, each resting a hand on a shield. Crossed spears behind the shields. Simpulum on l. and lituus on r., X below.</p><p>RIC 211; BMC 537; RSC 43a.</p><p><br /></p><p>The brothers, Caius and Lucius, were the sons of Agrippa and Julia, daughter of Augustus. They were due to succeed Augustus but predeceased him in 4 and 2 A.D. respectively. Gaius, the elder of the two brothers, has the more prestigious position on the left and the ladle above him marking him as Pontifex. He should have his shield placed in front of that of his younger brother Lucius, who has lituus above marking him as augur. The shield placement is likely just an engravers error.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]603456[/ATTACH]</p><p>27 BC-AD 14. AR Denarius. Lugdunum mint. Struck 2 BC-AD 4.</p><p>O: CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI F PATER PATRIAE Head, laureate, to right</p><p>R: AVGVSTI F COS DESIG PRINC IVVENT; C L CAESARES in ex; Gaius and Lucius Caesar standing facing, each resting a hand on a shield. Crossed spears behind the shields. Lituus on l. and Simpulum on r., X below.</p><p>- RIC 212 (R)</p><p><br /></p><p>Gaius should have the more prestigious position on the left but this variety has him on the right.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the only explanation of the X I've ever found but I have no idea if it might be a bunch of bologna.</p><p>"The <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" rel="nofollow">reverse</a> <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> commemorates, as Reinhard <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=wolters" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=wolters" rel="nofollow">Wolters</a> has demonstrated, the passage of the <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lex" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lex" rel="nofollow">lex</a> Valeria <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cornelia" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cornelia" rel="nofollow">Cornelia</a>, and it was struck in 5 AD either in <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1962" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1962" rel="nofollow">Lugdunum</a>, but with inhabitants of <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=55&pos=0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=55&pos=0" rel="nofollow">Rome</a> as the intended audience, or possibly even by a <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Mint%20Marks" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Mint%20Marks" rel="nofollow">mint</a> in the capital city itself. That law provided that ten elective centuries should be designated to preliminarily select consuls and praetors. Those ten centuries were named after Gaius and <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius" rel="nofollow">Lucius</a> Caesars, which explains the X in the coin <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> and the selection of the Gaius and <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius" rel="nofollow">Lucius</a> <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse" rel="nofollow">reverse</a> <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type" rel="nofollow">type</a> even after the deaths of the two princes. For this interpretation, dating, and <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Mint%20Marks" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Mint%20Marks" rel="nofollow">mint</a> location, see <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=wolters" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=wolters" rel="nofollow">Wolters</a>, 'Gaius and <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius" rel="nofollow">Lucius</a> Caesars as Designated Consuls and Princes of the <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=2040" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=2040" rel="nofollow">Youth</a>: the <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lex" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lex" rel="nofollow">lex</a> Valeria <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cornelia" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cornelia" rel="nofollow">Cornelia</a> and <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ric%20i" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ric%20i" rel="nofollow">RIC I</a>, 205 ff.', <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=chiron" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=chiron" rel="nofollow">Chiron</a> 32, 2002, pp. 297 ff."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Nemo, post: 2690758, member: 58462"]Nice pick ups Sallent, I especially like the denarius. Here are a few from my collection. [ATTACH=full]603455[/ATTACH] 27 BC-AD 14. AR Denarius. Lugdunum mint. Struck 2 BC-AD 4. O: Laureate head right R: Caius and Lucius Caesars standing facing, holding shields and spears between them; simpulum and lituus above. - RIC I 207; Lyon 82; RSC 43 [ATTACH=full]603457[/ATTACH] 27 BC-AD 14. AR Denarius. Lugdunum mint. Struck 2 BC-AD 4. O: CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI F PATER PATRIAE Head, laureate, to right R: AVGVSTI F COS DESIG PRINC IVVENT; C L CAESARES in ex; Gaius and Lucius Caesar standing facing, each resting a hand on a shield. Crossed spears behind the shields. Simpulum on l. and lituus on r., X below. RIC 211; BMC 537; RSC 43a. The brothers, Caius and Lucius, were the sons of Agrippa and Julia, daughter of Augustus. They were due to succeed Augustus but predeceased him in 4 and 2 A.D. respectively. Gaius, the elder of the two brothers, has the more prestigious position on the left and the ladle above him marking him as Pontifex. He should have his shield placed in front of that of his younger brother Lucius, who has lituus above marking him as augur. The shield placement is likely just an engravers error. [ATTACH=full]603456[/ATTACH] 27 BC-AD 14. AR Denarius. Lugdunum mint. Struck 2 BC-AD 4. O: CAESAR AVGVSTVS DIVI F PATER PATRIAE Head, laureate, to right R: AVGVSTI F COS DESIG PRINC IVVENT; C L CAESARES in ex; Gaius and Lucius Caesar standing facing, each resting a hand on a shield. Crossed spears behind the shields. Lituus on l. and Simpulum on r., X below. - RIC 212 (R) Gaius should have the more prestigious position on the left but this variety has him on the right. Here's the only explanation of the X I've ever found but I have no idea if it might be a bunch of bologna. "The [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse']reverse[/URL] [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type']type[/URL] commemorates, as Reinhard [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=wolters']Wolters[/URL] has demonstrated, the passage of the [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lex']lex[/URL] Valeria [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cornelia']Cornelia[/URL], and it was struck in 5 AD either in [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=1962']Lugdunum[/URL], but with inhabitants of [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=55&pos=0']Rome[/URL] as the intended audience, or possibly even by a [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Mint%20Marks']mint[/URL] in the capital city itself. That law provided that ten elective centuries should be designated to preliminarily select consuls and praetors. Those ten centuries were named after Gaius and [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius']Lucius[/URL] Caesars, which explains the X in the coin [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type']type[/URL] and the selection of the Gaius and [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius']Lucius[/URL] [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=reverse']reverse[/URL] [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=type']type[/URL] even after the deaths of the two princes. For this interpretation, dating, and [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Mint%20Marks']mint[/URL] location, see [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=wolters']Wolters[/URL], 'Gaius and [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lucius']Lucius[/URL] Caesars as Designated Consuls and Princes of the [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=2040']Youth[/URL]: the [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=lex']lex[/URL] Valeria [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=cornelia']Cornelia[/URL] and [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=ric%20i']RIC I[/URL], 205 ff.', [URL='http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=chiron']Chiron[/URL] 32, 2002, pp. 297 ff."[/QUOTE]
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