Would you grade this 1893 Morgan slider as an MS or AU?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by goldrealmoney79, Nov 19, 2023.

  1. goldrealmoney79

    goldrealmoney79 Active Member

    First observe pic shows some rub or frost break on the cheek, but other than that not seeing any signs of wear. Considering the price jump from au to ms, if submitted to PCGS where do you think she'll grade at?
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  3. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Au. 58. Doesn’t look harshly cleaned but probably dipped once or twice
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  4. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    If it's a slider it can not MS.
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  5. lardan

    lardan Supporter! Supporter

    That is true what Dynoking said. That word gets abused at times to some sellers. If wear is shown under magnification it is an AUat most.
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  6. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Looks like there is wear on hair over the ear. It's darker than the surrounding areas.
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  7. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter


    Though slipping into a low MS holder wouldn't be impossible.
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I see a tiny amount of wear so that makes it an AU. If it’s called a MS coin, then I’d call it a slider.
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    While nice looking, the coin has been cleaned, below and to the right of the eagle's left wing.
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  10. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Buy the 1893 NGC AU Details piece for $37.00+, and save the money. You will be getting the same quality as the piece you are asking about.

  11. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I think you are being extremely generous and courteous with limiting the locations of the cleaning/enhancement/chemical doctoring. Of course, the seller is posting photos taken of a coin inside an encapsulation with refection hiding the real condition of this piece, but....you are still being very nice, and someone should mention that you are.
  12. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Scratches, bag marks, cleaned. AU, thanks for sharing and good luck.
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  13. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    When in doubt . . .
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  14. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Remember there is no such grade as AU-MS. It is one or the other, not both, nothing in between. The actual grade will not be higher than the lowest grade advertised.
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  15. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    It’s a solid A/U, I have many in this grade
    Would call it a 58 comparing what I got.
  16. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Good Lord....
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can’t believe you’re admitting to having silver of any kind let alone enough Morgans to make a statement like that.
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  18. mpcusa

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  19. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Is that the rare “Scarface” VAM?
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  20. charley

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  21. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    No, no, it is just "similar". Anyway, the Grading will be the "same".

    Ask mpcusa.....
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