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Message:: [QUOTE="Midas, post: 108203, member: 2761"]Send them in raw.  I always felt that the likes of PCGS or NGC were a bit prejudice as they looked at coins, say graded in a PCI holder.  "That's not a MS65!!, what do those idiots know at ____ grading service know about grading coins?", would go through the mind of a grader at PCGS or NGC.  At least I always suspected this... I have sent in coins to "cross" at the same grade (if not higher) than the grade already printed on slab "A".  What happened?  I had all 10 coins come back as "did not cross" and was whacked for 10 submission fees.  Now, these coins were hand picked and I really thought they "should" cross.  NOT ONE CROSSED. Now, if the coin is still in the holder, the grader is at a disadvantage because it is hard to see the coin (through scratches) and also the rim.  So if there is any doubt, they will NEVER give the coin the benefit of the doubt. Not deterred, I broke out all 10 of those coins and sent them in raw.  Guess what?  7 of the coins were "awarded" grades that were what was initially printed on slab "A", 2 were awarded a point lower and one was awarded 3 points lower (ouch).  So there are NO promises if you send them in raw that they will grade as YOU see them, but you will have better luck than keeping them in a lower tiered plastic slab. IMO...[/QUOTE]