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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;John Burgess, post: 5129771, member: 105098&quot;]Let&#039;s be real here the TPG&#039;s were collectors and dealers and influential in the market. The actual graders are also collectors and dealers.</p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s pretty unavoidable to try to have experts and credibility without having people in the game. The only question is, is it really impartial or when a grader actually sees a MS68 or 69 and top pop is MS67 do they go out of their way to find reasons to make the 68 or 69 a MS67... or MS66 if they happen to be holding a MS67 in top pop they don&#039;t want the value screwed with...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I really don&#039;t believe it&#039;s anymore &quot;impartial&quot; than walking into a coin store with you MS66 self graded coin and the dealer invariably telling you it&#039;s MS63 for a host or reasons or even claiming rub and it&#039;s an AU.</p><p><br /></p><p>We also can&#039;t say the TPGs don&#039;t cater to home shopping and the even bigger online ripoff sellers out there with special &quot;hoard&quot; or &quot;xxx collection&quot; labels solely for marking up items above their actual values. We know this happens also.</p><p><br /></p><p>Buy the coin not the slab and you really can&#039;t go wrong, but this requires you to know what you are doing.</p><p>All TPG has done is made it harder for novice to get ripped off with a fake coin or getting ripped off with cleaned/tooled/polished coins&nbsp; but that&#039;s about it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Any scale changes, change nothing for that.</p><p>&quot;Sight unseen buys&quot; I guess only really exist with CAC stickers slabs ( which is an A,B,C system within the 70 scale) and then among the novice collectors that think they can trust the grading companies opinions 100% when it&#039;s very clear to anyone that&#039;s been around a while they really cater to their big submitters and will do basically anything for money.. as long as its not total fraud and within reason of course.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I guess the topic is &quot;would you consider changes to the grading scale to make it more fluid&quot;, not &quot;do you think the tpgs have it screwed up&quot;.</p><p>The scale works when used as intended. </p><p>It doesn&#039;t need modifications to devalue or increase the value coins, it&#039;s the users of the grading scales that caused it to malfunction and be abused and changing the scale won&#039;t change human nature to bend the rules or change the scale as they see fit.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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