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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 991541, member: 26302"]Yep, exactly. I have seen them get toned as well. The Grilledporkchop's point was very valid, they used to be toned to cover up the fact that they were cleaned or modified, that is why toned coins used to cost less. </p><p><br /></p><p>The danger of investing in the toning is that it IS reproducable, its chemistry and at some point someone will make a foolproof system to tone. Most AT toning nowadays is easier to tell, but if they ever got it to the point where mass amounts of coins could be toned and no one could tell, then to the OP question No, I would not care in the least. Why would you if its truly not differentiatable? Hopefully if there were no toning premium everyone would stop AT. I understand the price paid for toning would collapse, this is why I agree with Doug that it is dangerous to invest serious money JUST in toning. If a coin has beautiful toning but otherwise is worth little, I think it is a dangerous game to be buying the beauty. If you buy a coin for $500 that is toned that untoned would be worth $450, then ok that is your choice. I just think its extremely dangerous to buy a coin for $500 if an untoned version is worth $100. I am not saying those collectors are wrong, I just will not ever take that risk. Even hard green patina on ancient coins, which as far as I know is not reproducible, I will only pay a small premium for, not large premiums that some ancient collectors will pay. There too I am afraid that someday someone will be able to reproduce it.</p><p><br /></p><p>P.S. I just want to reiterate that anyone can collect what they like, its their hobby, this area is just not for me. I really respect your posts Lehigh, you just have more guts than I do.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 991541, member: 26302"]Yep, exactly. I have seen them get toned as well. The Grilledporkchop's point was very valid, they used to be toned to cover up the fact that they were cleaned or modified, that is why toned coins used to cost less. The danger of investing in the toning is that it IS reproducable, its chemistry and at some point someone will make a foolproof system to tone. Most AT toning nowadays is easier to tell, but if they ever got it to the point where mass amounts of coins could be toned and no one could tell, then to the OP question No, I would not care in the least. Why would you if its truly not differentiatable? Hopefully if there were no toning premium everyone would stop AT. I understand the price paid for toning would collapse, this is why I agree with Doug that it is dangerous to invest serious money JUST in toning. If a coin has beautiful toning but otherwise is worth little, I think it is a dangerous game to be buying the beauty. If you buy a coin for $500 that is toned that untoned would be worth $450, then ok that is your choice. I just think its extremely dangerous to buy a coin for $500 if an untoned version is worth $100. I am not saying those collectors are wrong, I just will not ever take that risk. Even hard green patina on ancient coins, which as far as I know is not reproducible, I will only pay a small premium for, not large premiums that some ancient collectors will pay. There too I am afraid that someday someone will be able to reproduce it. P.S. I just want to reiterate that anyone can collect what they like, its their hobby, this area is just not for me. I really respect your posts Lehigh, you just have more guts than I do.[/QUOTE]
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