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<p>[QUOTE="phankins11, post: 1981761, member: 70703"]I usually take the time to read all the posts on this subject, and usually learn something in doing so. Starts off usually with someone pointing out an ebay auction with a seller trying to sell a fake or copy, or a seller pricing an XF Morgan for $15000, etc. Usually its obvious in the first post or reply what's wrong or going on.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also usually don't chime in much, because I'm no expert, and still very much learning the finer points of numistmatics.</p><p><br /></p><p>But on this one though, it was different. I read all three pages of this discussion and I gotta say I'm kind of shaking my head\shruggin' shoulders. I'm wondering if anyone other than the OP actually went and looked at the 28D merc or 05 IHC that the OP used for the basis of his frustration?</p><p><br /></p><p>I did...even took the time to look and compare the two examples to Photograde, and PCGS's Guide to Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection, Second Edition. and then looked at the gray sheet prices, Numismedia FMV, PCGS price guide and completed sold Ebay Auctions, for the grade range I felt the coins were in. I gotta say, all those sources supported the prices the seller got from both coins IMHO.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even the Quarter that [USER=58810]@Vegas Vic[/USER] referenced, although in a basement slab and not really a pretty coin at all, could be argued that the seller was justified in what he asked and got for the coin. It could, if pushed, merit a technical grade of MS67, and if a price guide somewhere (<a href="http://www.numismedia.com/cgi-bin/coinprice.cgi?script=wshqtr&searchtype=any&searchtext=fmv&search=any&nmcode=14217600&guide=prices&guide2=pricesms" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.numismedia.com/cgi-bin/coinprice.cgi?script=wshqtr&searchtype=any&searchtext=fmv&search=any&nmcode=14217600&guide=prices&guide2=pricesms" rel="nofollow">http://www.numismedia.com/cgi-bin/coinprice.cgi?script=wshqtr&searchtype=any&searchtext=fmv&search=any&nmcode=14217600&guide=prices&guide2=pricesms</a>) says that an MS67 is worth that kind of money, then the seller is justified and the buyer is as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only thing left would be if they were counterfeit, I'm still a bit shaky on detecting counterfeit or doctored coins. So maybe that was the original beef, i dunno.</p><p><br /></p><p>IMHO though, if a buyer whats a coin bad enough to purchase it at a certain price then the coin is worth that amount...to that buyer. I've spent money on some *UGLY* coins but it was because they were a "pretty" ugly to me and I wanted them, so I forked over the cash. Here's an example...</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ae4HVkDW4g4/VA9UtpULIHI/AAAAAAAAGN4/cxgc01FI11w/s800/1920SesquiOb.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0sEoBhf_bdQ/VA9UuG-cJDI/AAAAAAAAGOA/HaSwa_k9n8k/s800/1920SesquiRe.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I probably gave too much for this coin, who's only real intrinsic value is the silver its made from, but I loved the look of the coin. As ugly as it is, its in my Dansco 7070, and it looks great....to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just my two cents worth...open to any correction or criticism of my evaluations.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="phankins11, post: 1981761, member: 70703"]I usually take the time to read all the posts on this subject, and usually learn something in doing so. Starts off usually with someone pointing out an ebay auction with a seller trying to sell a fake or copy, or a seller pricing an XF Morgan for $15000, etc. Usually its obvious in the first post or reply what's wrong or going on. I also usually don't chime in much, because I'm no expert, and still very much learning the finer points of numistmatics. But on this one though, it was different. I read all three pages of this discussion and I gotta say I'm kind of shaking my head\shruggin' shoulders. I'm wondering if anyone other than the OP actually went and looked at the 28D merc or 05 IHC that the OP used for the basis of his frustration? I did...even took the time to look and compare the two examples to Photograde, and PCGS's Guide to Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection, Second Edition. and then looked at the gray sheet prices, Numismedia FMV, PCGS price guide and completed sold Ebay Auctions, for the grade range I felt the coins were in. I gotta say, all those sources supported the prices the seller got from both coins IMHO. Even the Quarter that [USER=58810]@Vegas Vic[/USER] referenced, although in a basement slab and not really a pretty coin at all, could be argued that the seller was justified in what he asked and got for the coin. It could, if pushed, merit a technical grade of MS67, and if a price guide somewhere ([url]http://www.numismedia.com/cgi-bin/coinprice.cgi?script=wshqtr&searchtype=any&searchtext=fmv&search=any&nmcode=14217600&guide=prices&guide2=pricesms[/url]) says that an MS67 is worth that kind of money, then the seller is justified and the buyer is as well. The only thing left would be if they were counterfeit, I'm still a bit shaky on detecting counterfeit or doctored coins. So maybe that was the original beef, i dunno. IMHO though, if a buyer whats a coin bad enough to purchase it at a certain price then the coin is worth that amount...to that buyer. I've spent money on some *UGLY* coins but it was because they were a "pretty" ugly to me and I wanted them, so I forked over the cash. Here's an example... [IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Ae4HVkDW4g4/VA9UtpULIHI/AAAAAAAAGN4/cxgc01FI11w/s800/1920SesquiOb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0sEoBhf_bdQ/VA9UuG-cJDI/AAAAAAAAGOA/HaSwa_k9n8k/s800/1920SesquiRe.jpg[/IMG] I probably gave too much for this coin, who's only real intrinsic value is the silver its made from, but I loved the look of the coin. As ugly as it is, its in my Dansco 7070, and it looks great....to me. Just my two cents worth...open to any correction or criticism of my evaluations.[/QUOTE]
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