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<p>[QUOTE="AussieCollector, post: 3549274, member: 81093"]Hi folks</p><p><br /></p><p>So I purchased an 8 Escudos sometime ago. I bought it at an auction, from a fairly reputable English auction house (never heard any complaints, and they've been around for some time).</p><p><br /></p><p>It is a CHILE, Charles IV., 1788-1808, 8 Escudos 1790 DA, Santiago. 26,99g (second one below).</p><p><br /></p><p>I was against one other bidder, and picked it up for a very good price (bullion value), which TBH is really all its worth because of how worn it is (unless you're super excited by holding historical coins like I am). It has changed hands a number of times (I found it for sale in the mid 2000s, and then again in 2014 doing an archive search).</p><p><br /></p><p>However, I was browsing through numisbids today and stumbled across another coin that it really, really close to being identical. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]943158[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So the worn S and Ds on the obverse aren't too much out of the ordinary (there are plenty of other 1790-DA 8 Escudos with the same), but the flaw at 9 o'clock is what grabbed my attention. It is not quite identical, but it is really close (slightly different position and size I think). </p><p><br /></p><p>There are some obvious differences in the coins (like the shape, the edge reeding, wear, flattening, indents, and scratches), but the similarities are concerning in my opinion.</p><p><br /></p><p>In terms of the Specific Gravity, it is definitely around the 21 carat mark.</p><p><br /></p><p>What are peoples' thoughts?</p><p><br /></p><p>Worn and flawed die? Or counterfeit? If counterfeit, I might need to alert the auction house.</p><p><br /></p><p>AC[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AussieCollector, post: 3549274, member: 81093"]Hi folks So I purchased an 8 Escudos sometime ago. I bought it at an auction, from a fairly reputable English auction house (never heard any complaints, and they've been around for some time). It is a CHILE, Charles IV., 1788-1808, 8 Escudos 1790 DA, Santiago. 26,99g (second one below). I was against one other bidder, and picked it up for a very good price (bullion value), which TBH is really all its worth because of how worn it is (unless you're super excited by holding historical coins like I am). It has changed hands a number of times (I found it for sale in the mid 2000s, and then again in 2014 doing an archive search). However, I was browsing through numisbids today and stumbled across another coin that it really, really close to being identical. [ATTACH=full]943158[/ATTACH] So the worn S and Ds on the obverse aren't too much out of the ordinary (there are plenty of other 1790-DA 8 Escudos with the same), but the flaw at 9 o'clock is what grabbed my attention. It is not quite identical, but it is really close (slightly different position and size I think). There are some obvious differences in the coins (like the shape, the edge reeding, wear, flattening, indents, and scratches), but the similarities are concerning in my opinion. In terms of the Specific Gravity, it is definitely around the 21 carat mark. What are peoples' thoughts? Worn and flawed die? Or counterfeit? If counterfeit, I might need to alert the auction house. AC[/QUOTE]
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