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<p>[QUOTE="maridvnvm, post: 4502337, member: 31620"]When describing ancients there are so many manufacturing flaws that should/could be mentioned in the description of a coin. Most sellers don't include these in their descriptions but try and stick to grade which is only a fraction of the story with these coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is one coin and a couple of alternative descriptions......</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/Papia_1c_img~0.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>The up-sell.....</p><p><br /></p><p>About as struck, from fresh dies, very little wear leading to very high levels of detail still visible on the wings and legs of the gryphon</p><p><br /></p><p>A fuller description....</p><p><br /></p><p>Whilst struck from what would appear to be fresh dies the coin suffers from an uneven and off-centre strike. The uneven strike has led to large areas of the obverse (from 8 o'clock to 2 o'clock) and reverse (6 o'clock to 10 o clock) being flat due to the lack of pressure in those areas. The off-centre, uneven strike combination has distorted the flan into an oval shape due to the increased pressure on half of the flan. The off-centre strike has also led to elements of the design, being off-flan, particularly the wing tips, head and foot on the gryphon. On the plus side the areas that were struck have suffered from little to no wear with lots of fine detail remaining.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would also add this image that illustrates the strike...</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/Papia_1c_edge.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>This image illustrates the uneven strike. You can see the thickness of the coin varying from left (where there was little or no pressure) to right (where the main pressure from the strike took place).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="maridvnvm, post: 4502337, member: 31620"]When describing ancients there are so many manufacturing flaws that should/could be mentioned in the description of a coin. Most sellers don't include these in their descriptions but try and stick to grade which is only a fraction of the story with these coins. Here is one coin and a couple of alternative descriptions...... [IMG]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/Papia_1c_img~0.jpg[/IMG] The up-sell..... About as struck, from fresh dies, very little wear leading to very high levels of detail still visible on the wings and legs of the gryphon A fuller description.... Whilst struck from what would appear to be fresh dies the coin suffers from an uneven and off-centre strike. The uneven strike has led to large areas of the obverse (from 8 o'clock to 2 o'clock) and reverse (6 o'clock to 10 o clock) being flat due to the lack of pressure in those areas. The off-centre, uneven strike combination has distorted the flan into an oval shape due to the increased pressure on half of the flan. The off-centre strike has also led to elements of the design, being off-flan, particularly the wing tips, head and foot on the gryphon. On the plus side the areas that were struck have suffered from little to no wear with lots of fine detail remaining. I would also add this image that illustrates the strike... [IMG]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10618/Papia_1c_edge.JPG[/IMG] This image illustrates the uneven strike. You can see the thickness of the coin varying from left (where there was little or no pressure) to right (where the main pressure from the strike took place).[/QUOTE]
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