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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4907489, member: 19463"]I like this thread but believe the term 'worn' is being used in a different way than I would. Of the coins shown here, Bing's legionary denarius is worn with reasonable other faults that are expected on a VG coin. Spaniard's Aurelius is a nice coin, perhaps aVF?, and would be welcome in my collection were it common as dirt. Most of the rest have a problem (or several) that bother me a lot more than the wear shown. Let there be no mistake, I would love to have any of those Antony fleet bronzes but four of the five show separation of the ear from the head. The fifth, lower right, lacks ear but has a reverse that is clear under but has pitting and uneven color which are worse than the obverse weakness (wear, strike, or die wear???). I can only play here with several coins if we were expected to show low grade rarities but more of my coins are like David's Vespasian with problems of strike and surface texture.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, I do not know how many of these sestertii exist but Banti (I Grandi Bronzi Imperiali, IV-1 page 144 #12 listed it only from old catalog listings illustrated by a line drawing from Vaillant whose book was a century before photography was invented. The coin shows a funeral pyre with four levels as opposed to the 'common' version (Banti lists 2 and has a photo) which has five levels. In addition to mine, I saw a die duplicate offered a few years ago a bit nicer but my coin is rare with lousy surfaces and tooling to remove bronze disease. Wear, sure, but that is the least of the problems. I wish now I had bought the second one. It was better since it lacked the Bronze Disease excavation.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1184222[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>My second example, among its myriad faults, certainly is worn but, fortunately, retains MP at reverse right showing that the die read INVICTO IMP rather than INVICTO IMP TROPAEA. The reverse design shows the trophy of arms quite common from the mint known as 'Emesa' but this one shows obvious Alexandria mint style. I repeatedly ask to be shown others but no one has taken pity on me and shown one. I bought this in 1994 from a dealer who did not know one mint from another (very common back then!). I paid $10 which was about ten times the value of the 'Emesa' coin in this condition. The seller was the kind of dealer that sold most things well over their value. </p><p><br /></p><p>By the time of his death in 1997, Roger Bickford-Smith was unaware of another. I considered giving it to him but am thankful today that I did not considering his early death. I still am unaware of another. I hope that, before my passing, others of these turn up so anyone who cares can have one (preferably nicer).</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1184224[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Of the coins I have that have claim to rarity, these are the worst.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 4907489, member: 19463"]I like this thread but believe the term 'worn' is being used in a different way than I would. Of the coins shown here, Bing's legionary denarius is worn with reasonable other faults that are expected on a VG coin. Spaniard's Aurelius is a nice coin, perhaps aVF?, and would be welcome in my collection were it common as dirt. Most of the rest have a problem (or several) that bother me a lot more than the wear shown. Let there be no mistake, I would love to have any of those Antony fleet bronzes but four of the five show separation of the ear from the head. The fifth, lower right, lacks ear but has a reverse that is clear under but has pitting and uneven color which are worse than the obverse weakness (wear, strike, or die wear???). I can only play here with several coins if we were expected to show low grade rarities but more of my coins are like David's Vespasian with problems of strike and surface texture. First, I do not know how many of these sestertii exist but Banti (I Grandi Bronzi Imperiali, IV-1 page 144 #12 listed it only from old catalog listings illustrated by a line drawing from Vaillant whose book was a century before photography was invented. The coin shows a funeral pyre with four levels as opposed to the 'common' version (Banti lists 2 and has a photo) which has five levels. In addition to mine, I saw a die duplicate offered a few years ago a bit nicer but my coin is rare with lousy surfaces and tooling to remove bronze disease. Wear, sure, but that is the least of the problems. I wish now I had bought the second one. It was better since it lacked the Bronze Disease excavation. [ATTACH=full]1184222[/ATTACH] My second example, among its myriad faults, certainly is worn but, fortunately, retains MP at reverse right showing that the die read INVICTO IMP rather than INVICTO IMP TROPAEA. The reverse design shows the trophy of arms quite common from the mint known as 'Emesa' but this one shows obvious Alexandria mint style. I repeatedly ask to be shown others but no one has taken pity on me and shown one. I bought this in 1994 from a dealer who did not know one mint from another (very common back then!). I paid $10 which was about ten times the value of the 'Emesa' coin in this condition. The seller was the kind of dealer that sold most things well over their value. By the time of his death in 1997, Roger Bickford-Smith was unaware of another. I considered giving it to him but am thankful today that I did not considering his early death. I still am unaware of another. I hope that, before my passing, others of these turn up so anyone who cares can have one (preferably nicer). [ATTACH=full]1184224[/ATTACH] Of the coins I have that have claim to rarity, these are the worst.[/QUOTE]
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