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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4906257, member: 110504"]Magnificent example, [USER=82616]@David Atherton[/USER]. If you've got something on the BM and the Louvre, that just Gets to be Good Enough. </p><p>This is one I posted a while ago, but it's too much along the same lines as yours not to post again. And if that wasn't being lazy enough, I'm copying and pasting the description from that post ('No Century for Old Men'):[ATTACH=full]1183796[/ATTACH]</p><p>Charles III le Simple, King of Francia 898-923, or Hugues le Grand /Hugh Magnus, Dux Francorum 936-956. (Father of Hugues Capet.) AR denier, Senlis.</p><p>Rev. (In two lines, crosslets above and below): SILVA NECTIS (the 'N' ligated with the 'E,' and the final 'S' retrograde); medieval Latin for 'Senlis.'</p><p>Obv. 'KAROLVS' monogram --or 'HVIIO DVX' around a small cross (?).</p><p>+GRATIA D-I REX.</p><p>Depeyrot 915, Nouchy 268 (if Carolingian); Duplessy (Feodales) 6, Legros 44 (if Robertian.)</p><p>I only know of the Legros citation from this listing by Leu Numismatik:</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2313689" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2313689" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2313689</a></p><p>...Sure, I <i>want</i> it to be Hugues le Grand, but without a better eye, it's a tough call. On the other hand, even in its present state, there are enough nuances to suggest Hugues over Charles le Simple. On the reverse, the ligated 'NE' at the beginning of the second line, rather than an 'IE,' distinguishes it (like the example from Leu Numismatik) from any Carolingian issues I've seen. Similarly, enough of the obverse, 'GRATIA D-I REX' legend is discernible to establish that it's not retrograde, as much of it is on the Carolingian ones I can find in print. Meanwhile, the only examples of Senlis in Dumas (Fecamp) have a completely different legend, presumably from later in the century than either Charles or Hugues (6598-9).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4906257, member: 110504"]Magnificent example, [USER=82616]@David Atherton[/USER]. If you've got something on the BM and the Louvre, that just Gets to be Good Enough. This is one I posted a while ago, but it's too much along the same lines as yours not to post again. And if that wasn't being lazy enough, I'm copying and pasting the description from that post ('No Century for Old Men'):[ATTACH=full]1183796[/ATTACH] Charles III le Simple, King of Francia 898-923, or Hugues le Grand /Hugh Magnus, Dux Francorum 936-956. (Father of Hugues Capet.) AR denier, Senlis. Rev. (In two lines, crosslets above and below): SILVA NECTIS (the 'N' ligated with the 'E,' and the final 'S' retrograde); medieval Latin for 'Senlis.' Obv. 'KAROLVS' monogram --or 'HVIIO DVX' around a small cross (?). +GRATIA D-I REX. Depeyrot 915, Nouchy 268 (if Carolingian); Duplessy (Feodales) 6, Legros 44 (if Robertian.) I only know of the Legros citation from this listing by Leu Numismatik: [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2313689[/URL] ...Sure, I [I]want[/I] it to be Hugues le Grand, but without a better eye, it's a tough call. On the other hand, even in its present state, there are enough nuances to suggest Hugues over Charles le Simple. On the reverse, the ligated 'NE' at the beginning of the second line, rather than an 'IE,' distinguishes it (like the example from Leu Numismatik) from any Carolingian issues I've seen. Similarly, enough of the obverse, 'GRATIA D-I REX' legend is discernible to establish that it's not retrograde, as much of it is on the Carolingian ones I can find in print. Meanwhile, the only examples of Senlis in Dumas (Fecamp) have a completely different legend, presumably from later in the century than either Charles or Hugues (6598-9).[/QUOTE]
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