World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

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  1. Andrew McMenamin

    Andrew McMenamin Nerva You Mind

    Vatican? (Added) Oops should have read your post. Nice.
     
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  3. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany PFALZ-ZWEIBRUCKEN Johann II the Younger Taler 1623

    Pfalz-Zweibrucken Johann II Taler 1623 LD obv 657.jpg Pfalz-Zweibrucken Johann II Taler 1623 LD rev 661.jpg
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I would assume you are talking about the 1 1/2 pence sitting on the crown. Yeah, they were struck for some of the British "protectorates"
     
  5. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany POMERANIA Bogislaw XIV Taler 1629 Pomerania Bogislaw XIV Taler 1629 obv 693.jpg Pomerania Bogislaw XIV Taler 1629 rev 694.jpg



    POMERANIA Bogislaw XIV Taler 1631

    Pomerania Bogislaw XIV Taler 1631 obv 556.jpg Pomerania Bogislaw XIV Taler 1631 rev 558.jpg
     
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  6. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    A new taler addition last week to accompany the 1/2 taler of the same year. Struck upon the death of Franz Ludwig von Pfalz-Neuburg, Archbishop-Elector of Mainz. Obv features St. Martin sharing a coat with a beggar. Reported mintage of 200 on each; I have been on the hunt for a decent example of this taler for many years.

    1732 Mainz taler
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    1732 Mainz 1/2 taler
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  7. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany BRUNSWICK-LUNEBURG-CELLE Friedrich Reichstaler n.d. (1643-48)

    Br-Lun-Celle Friedrich Taler nd  1636-48 LD obv 289.jpg Br-Lun-Celle Friedrich Taler nd  1636-48 LD rev 301.jpg
     
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  8. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    What a stunning taler & half taler. It looks like a medal and may as well be one with a mintage of only 200 pcs.

    On the death of Fritz, one life ends and another begins. 1732 was when George Washington was born. I once tried to buy a mint state French ecu of that year but missed it.

    Oh well, I suppose I can always pick up a 1732 Pillar Dollar...
     
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  9. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    Thanks @Gallienus! Most would agree that the most commonly recognized standard for talers is Davenport (DAV-). In the case of these Mainz issues, each is listed in Krause but not included in Davenport. There were multiple issues commemorating this event (1/8 taler KM#261, 1/4 taler KM#263, 1/2 taler KM#265, and a 1 taler KM#266). The same circumstances exist for the multiple denominations issued by Mainz for 1743 and 1763 sede vacante events. I use the Zepernick classification as my principle guide for these bishopric issues since it has more consistent coverage in this corner of the German States hobby. Erlanger and Heller are also quite comprehensive classification guides. My personal opinion is that these are the 18th century version of the commemorative 1-year type issued as regular circulating coinage. The issues might not have circulated much in practice (althought I have seen many well worn examples), but the pieces were struck according to accepted size and weight of standard denominations. Perhaps others can add clarity.
     
  10. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Italy SICILY Ferdinando III (IV of Naples) Oncia of 30 Tari

    Rev.: EX.AVRO._ ARGENTEA._ RE_ SVRGIT ( from gold it arises again, made of silver). Sun shining down on phoenix rising from flames, dividing N.d O.V (= Nicole d'Orgemont Vigevi, Barone de la Fontaine, mm 1793-98)

    This presentation coin consists of 1 ounce of silver. It weighs 68.2 g with a diameter of 48 mm. The reverse motto ex auro argentea resurgit refers to the very peculiar nature of this coin. The gigantic silver piece was the rebirth of an older traditional Sicilian one ounce coin, which had been minted for centuries in gold (4.4 grams). It is therefore the rebirth and transmutation of gold into silver at a 1 to 15.5 ratio which was being celebrated !

    Sicily Ferdinando III Oncia of 30 Tari 1793 LD obv 345.jpg Sicily Ferdinando III Oncia of 30 Tari 1793 LD rev 357.jpg
     
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  11. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    You have a beautiful Sicilian giant crown from the Palermo mint. The King on this coin is sometimes called Ferdinando di Borbone. He was the son of King Carlo III di Borbone who would later become King Charles III of Spain . That's a coin I've been hoping to get one day but they are too expensive for me.

    The more common Sicilian 12 Tari crown of that era was 27.32 grams . The 30 Tari coin was huge at 68.2 grams. I don't think they were used too much.
     
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  12. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Yes, I think they were struck for presentation purposes rather than for general circulation.
     
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  13. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    Would you happen to have a photo of the edge of this coin. I'm sure the pattern must have been unique.
     
  14. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    Two more nice types on my day off:

    1852 Brazil 2000 Reis
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    1969 India 10 Rupees
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  15. Seated J

    Seated J Well-Known Member

    First new world crowns in a while, first an 1888 Japanese yen (cleaned): Japan-yen-1888-obv.jpg Japan-yen-1888-rev.jpg
     
  16. Seated J

    Seated J Well-Known Member

    Second newp, Hesse-Darmstadt 2 Thaler:
    Hesse-Darmstadt-2 Thaler-1840-obv.jpg Hesse-Darmstadt-2 Thaler-1840-rev.jpg
     
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  17. Seated J

    Seated J Well-Known Member

    And lastly, a 1901 British trade dollar, a type I've wanted for a while:
    Great Britain-trade dollar-1901-obv.jpg Great Britain-trade dollar-1901-rev.jpg
     
  18. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    It has a decorated edge but I don't have a picture Edges are a problem for my scanner. If I can get a half-decent photo, I will post it in due course.
     
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  19. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany Bishopric of MUNSTER Johann IV von Hoya Reichstaler 1570 with St. Paul, patron saint of Münster, on the reverse

    Count Johann VIII of Hoya zu Stolzenau (1529-74) had a successful career in the church, although in the process he confused what number Johann he was. He became Prince-Bishop of Osnabrück as Johann IV in 1553 and of Münster in 1556 as Johann III (although he is often referred to as Johann IV since Osnabrück was his major bishopric). He also became Administrator of the Bishopric of Paderborn in 1568 as Johann II. Overall, he strove for a fundamental reform of the ecclesiastical administration and he had Protestant sympathies.

    Munster Bish Joh IV v Hoya Taler 1570 LD obv 752.jpg Munster Bish Joh IV v Hoya Taler 1570 LD rev 759.jpg
     
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  20. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany POMERANIA under Sweden King Karl X Gustav Taler 1655

    Pomerania Karl X Gustav of Sweden Taler 1655 LD obv 246.jpg Pomerania Karl X Gustav of Sweden Taler 1655 LD rev 252.jpg
     
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  21. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    New addition.
    1858PTS FJ, Bolivia, Silver 4 Soles, NGC XF 40, KM# 123.2.
    Polish_20211205_070738183.jpg Polish_20211205_070653778.jpg
     
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