World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

That's a decent one. I'd likely buy it for the fun factor at 10-20% over silver value.

I only have a couple 200+ year old coins in my collection.

 

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Most likely you didn't pay attention , because it's not a rare one!Hope to grab a VOC piece someday!

 

I definitely pay more attention to German States stuff. I've been trying to stay more focused but it isn't really working.

 

I collect a lot of world crown-sized coins. Just picked up this New Zealand 1953 Elizabeth II crown. It is common in MS, but only 7,000 proofs minted.
This one is a nicely toned proof.

 

Here's a VOC issue for you. I bought it in a Jakarta street market in April 1982. I think it is genuine. 31.20 g.

NETHERLAND EAST INDIES Holland Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie (Dutch United East Indian Company) Ducaton 1739

 

@talerman, is this another test?

 

No, not a test. I genuinely think it is genuine (apart from anything else, today's Chinese counterfeiting industry did not exist back then). However, since I did not buy it from a highly respectable source, I would listen to anyone more expert on this series than I who expresses doubts.

 

1649 Ecu, Rochelle, amazing bust in my opinion, plus great customer service and delivery from CGB. fr

 

I was asked to evaluate someone's collection and was offered a very good deal in exchange, for these three pieces , not to mention the lack of a buyers fee.
A 1669 Gotha taler, which will be my second of the type, a 1646 riksdaler of Sweeden, a Salvator Mundi taler that i always wanted to have, so i can live with that engraving on the rev. and my first double taler, the well known Leopold and Claudia de Medici .

 

Germany FURSTENBERG Joseph Wilhelm Ernst Mining Taler 1729 Kinzig-Tal mine

 

. A 2 taler piece of which i'm unsure at the moment!
( Owners pics!)

 

When I was very young I used some of my coins (Morgan dollars & Franklin halves) to make tin foil molds from which I used to make wafers of chocolate. You could use latex and make a reuseable icecube mold from this one. Also double mint chocolate chip cookies!

It would be a hit if you had small nieces and nephews and this way you could force them to look at your coins in an unobtrusive manner.

 

Sounds great, but for now i'm trying to get more opinion if this seems right or not! I'm struggling a bit!

 

While I don't consider myself to be an expert at detecting counterfeit's I can see why you are concerned. I have never seen one with an edge like that. Aside from that, there is nothing that screams that it is bad to me.

 

Exactly my view. Sorry not to be of more help. I am sure you would like to have firm opinions one way or the other. How about sending the pics to the German dealer you most trust for his opinion ?

 

I’ve asked the lady to do a ping test and it sounds like a cast, plus there’s one , 1625 on YouTube , by Katz auctions , and the edge is normal, not like this piece. Also , got a reply from Winfried Fruhwald , the top of the Fruhwald auction house and he said it’s a fake based on the pics so I have to conclude it is a fake cast piece! Thank you very much for your
input, I appreciate!

 

So it's an electrotype? or at least some sort of cast? Sorry to hear that, multiple talers are very hard to come by. From memory, none of my talers have edges with seams like that; but then again I only have a handful of specialty talers. The last 2 I bid on, I lost.

 

It's a cast piece for sure!I had a double wedding taler of Hamburg, also cast that looked and sounded similar. It's good that i didn't get carried away and bought it without proper checking it, plus it's a risk that i have to take since i'm hunting on ebay most of the time, where i have a better chance to get bargains!
Just got a new Piastra yesterday, 1675 ,Clement X!

 

Here are some wins from the CNG auction yesterday. I did what I usually do. Logged in shortly before the auction starts, put in my bids, and logged out. It keeps me from getting in a bidding war. Unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, I won all 4 lots that I bid on. Usually, I am lucky to get 1 or 2. The photos and descriptions are all from CNG.

The last piece is slightly outside of my normal collecting focus. The big 46mm planchet was really appealing to me. It's actually my favorite one of the 4.


GERMANY, Sachsen-Albertinische Linie (Kurfürstentum). Christian II, with Johann Georg and August. 1591-1611. AR Taler (40mm, 28.82 g, 5h). Dresden mint. Dated 1602 (HB). Armored bust of Christian right, holding plumed helmet and sword over shoulder / Confronted armored half-length busts of Johann Georg and August, facing slightly right and left; all within border of coats-of-arms. Keilitz & Kahn 222; Schnee 466; KM ; Davenport 7561



GERMANY, Sachsen-Albertinische Linie (Kurfürstentum und Herzogtum). Johann Georg I. 1611-1656. AR Taler (45mm, 29.13 g, 9h). Commemorating the Centenary of the Augsburg Confession. Dresden mint. Dually dated 25 June 1530 and 1630. Capped half length bust of Johann Georg right, holding sword; coat-of-arms below / Capped half length Johann der Beständigen, holding sword over shoulder; four coats of arms around. Clauss & Kahnt 323; Schnee 860; KM 411; Davenport 7605



GERMANY, Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel (Herzogtum). Heinrich Julius. As Bishop of Halberstadt, 1566-1613. AR Taler (41mm, 27.92 g, 10h). Andreasberg mint. Dated 1613. Coat-of-arms surmounted by five elaborately crested helmets / Wildman standing facing, holding tree. Welter 645A; KM 7; Davenport 6285.



HUNGARY, Holy Roman Empire. Magyar Királyság (Kingdom of Hungary). Ferdinánd III. 1637-1657. AR Taler (46mm, 28.54 g, 10h). Körmöcbánya (Kremnitz) mint. Dated 1641 KB. Laureate, armored, and draped bust right / Crowned double-headed eagle, holding sword and scepter; crowned and collared coat-of-arms on breast. Huszár 1241; KM 107; Davenport 3198.

 

Nice ones, i really love the wildman and the 1641 one is huge !