World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Ag76, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    This little coin does not belong on this thread but I thought that, following your recent acquisition, you would enjoy the hound's head crest on the reverse

    OETTINGEN-OETTINGEN Albert Ernst 12 Kreuzer 1673

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  3. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Very cool. I just recently became aware of those. In my opinion, imagery like this and most of my other pieces, is better than the bust of the current top dog in charge.
     
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  4. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    Well the coin was bought for my wedding in 1998. My wife wanted to have a display of historical coins and I had nothing old of Poland. Thus it was purchased late 1997 or early 1998 and Karl graded it EF. There are no flaws nor damage.

    At the time I had a friend who kept bragging to me about "collectors he knew that had collections of Polish thalers in proof-like unc". Due to the need for my wedding display I bought this one and fortunately didn't decide to hold out for 17th century Polish thalers in "proof-like unc" as my friend implied were common.

    With the economics of the times I've had to contrain my coin expenses these days so I only buy perhaps 6 coins per year and it's pretty much auctions.
     
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  6. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    I like buying low pop world issues. They are really a super deal vs US.
     
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  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Actually, it was about 60 Kreuzer to a Gulden, and 1.75 Gulden to a Taler. Here's a fun read on money in this era: http://www.amason.net/hessen/thaler.htm

    And another: http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/history/coin.html
     
  8. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Sorry, could not get it to work. I can't imagine what I missed !
     
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  9. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany HENNEBERG-ILMENAU Joint Issue of Princes of Saxony Reichstaler 1699
    After Georg Ernst, the last count of Henneberg, died in 1583 without an heir, his lands were divided between Saxony (the lion's share), Hesse-Cassel and Brandenburg.
    The reverse legend NACH DEM ALTEN REICHS SCHROT UND KORN (according to the old imperial weight and alloy) is interesting. It expressly indicates that the old Reichmünzfuss (Imperial coinage standard) from 1566 is still being followed, which, due to the sharp rise in the price of silver, was hardly used after the Thirty Years' War except for mine coins and other special issues. This coin was struck at the Ilmenau mine. The helmeted princely coats of arms on the obverse are supported by 2 miners.

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  10. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Here are some coins I've bought recently. The first one is probably the most expensive single coin I've ever purchased, yet it's price pales in comparison to the prices of the coins you guys buy.
    This is a 1930 A Germany 3 Marks (not a true Crown size) silver coin with a Graf Zeppelin device and a graffiti date purported to be the date Hitler became Chancellor of Germany. I don't know Hans.

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    I really like this one which is why I sprang so high for it. I usually take pride in getting great coins at low prices, but I didn't want this one to get away.



    Next is an 1888 MPM Spain Alfonso XIII "Infante" 5 Pesetas. I've tried to collect one of each of the different "looks" as he ages through infancy into childhood through his teenage years and into adulthood. I'm also trying to do the same with both the Queens of England and the Queens of the Netherlands.

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    This next one is just something I like to get just because it is a Crown size coin : Big and Heavy. Nice feel in your hand.
    Napoleon the III , What was he, like a nephew or something?



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    Last but not least I have a 1962 Liberia Silver Dollar, not in the best condition but decent.

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    I'm currently bidding on another Liberian coin about 100 years older than this one and something I noticed right away was that the woman on the older coin had a decidedly Caucasian look about her, whereas the more modern coin looked much more African, as you can see. I'm supposing that this is because as time passed the leaders of Liberia began feeling freer to express their own ideas about the designs of their coins rather than maintaining an imagery given to them by someone else.
    When/if I get the other one, I'll post a different Dollar with the new coin alongside it for an easy visual comparison. After all, this is history. I've often said " You can tell the History of a Nation by the Designs of it's Coins."

    Thanks for your patience and interest.
     
  11. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    Beautiful coin. I have a few pieces from Henneberg but nothing that nice.
     
  12. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    1696 Schwarzenberg reichstaler, Vienna mint, commemorating the marriage between Ferdinand William Eusebius and Maria Anna of Sulz

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  13. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany HESSE-CASSEL Moritz the Learned Reichstaler 1593

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  14. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    1636 Brabant ducaton, Philip III

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  15. Miles Bloomfield

    Miles Bloomfield New Member

    5 Francs 1873 A (Hercules) France 3rd Republic.
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  16. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany HESSE-DARMSTADT Ludwig V The Faithful Reichstaler 1626

    In the Thirty Years' War Ludwig, although a Lutheran, sided with the Catholic Emperor, hence his nickname “The Faithful”. His Calvinist cousin Moritz of Hesse-Cassel, who appeared on my last post, fought for the Protestants.

    Hesse-Darmstadt Ludwig V Taler 1626 LD obv 909.jpg Hesse-Darmstadt Ludwig V Taler 1626 LD rev 914.jpg
     
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  17. Miles Bloomfield

    Miles Bloomfield New Member

    @Hookman That German 3 Marks is a really dark piece history because the date etched on it January 30, 1933, President Paul von Hindenburg names Adolf Hitler, leader or führer of the National Socialist German Workers Party (or Nazi Party), as chancellor of Germany.
     
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  18. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    So that date is accurate as to what I was told it means? Cool.

    For me it is just a coin with a great looking Zeppelin on it. I have several of the von Hindenburg/ Swastika issues, both 2 and 5 Marks, and the Potsdam Church version, both with and without the date. They are all just pieces of history to me. None of them carry any hate-filled anything for me.

    Maybe the date on that coin means something to Hans, who ever he is or was.

    Remember the expression : " If we fail to remember history, we are doomed to repeat it. " So things like that should remind us of the bad things and why we shouldn't allow those bad things to happen again.
     
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  19. Miles Bloomfield

    Miles Bloomfield New Member

    Yes I agree, it's the same with me loving the design and history of the fascist Italian 5 lire and 10 lire despite the dark history of that government.
     
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  20. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Yes, I like those also and have some of each, though I can't put my fingers on them right now or I'd post some pix.
     
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  21. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    1708 taler, Joseph I,Vienna

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