World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

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  1. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Spanish Netherlands BRABANT Emperor Charles V Karolusgulden (or Florin) n.d. (1542-48) Antwerp mint

    In April 1544 Charles V ordered the striking of a silver Karolusgulden with the same value as the gold Karolusgulden. This was the first large silver coin in the Netherlands, similar to German talers. However, although 40 mm in diameter, the weight is only 22.29 g.

    Brabant Chas V Karolus Gulden Florin 1st type nd LD obv 885.jpg

    Brabant Chas V Karolus Gulden Florin 1st type nd LD rev 894.jpg
     
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  3. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    A wonderful issue; I think this is one of the top designs of the late 17th century Papal States from the Hamerani dynasty of engravers.
     
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  4. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    It’s a nice piece indeed and it’s big too ! I also know you have it in XF/ AU if I’m not wrong!
     
  5. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    2 more beautiful coins with Giovanni Hamerani's bust of Innocent XII

    Italy PAPAL STATES Innocent XII Piastre Year 8 (1699)

    Obverse: HAMERANVS by neck
    However, reverse of Israelites gathering manna from heaven, with city in the background, seems to have been done by Ferdinand Saint-Urbain (papal medallist 1683-1703) -S.V in exergue

    Papal States Innocent XII Piastre with Israelites & manna 1699 obv 314.jpg Papal States Innocent XII Piastre with Israelites & manna 1699 rev 316.jpg


    PAPAL STATES Innocent XII Piastre Year 8 (1699)

    Obverse: HAMERANVS by neck
    The reverse, a view of port of Anzio, may well also have been done by someone else, although there is no indication on the coin.

    Papal States Innocent XII Piastre an VIII 1699 with Anzio port obv 847.jpg Papal States Innocent XII Piastre An VIII 1699 with Anzio port rev 849.jpg
     
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  6. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    Wow! They made it to commemorate the start of the 30 Years War (1618 -1648).
     
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  7. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    The Hindenburg 5 mark coins are small and fat (Diameter: 29.00mm) They're about the size of a US silver half dollar (30 mm dia) & 12.5 grams.
    Actually the 2 mark Hindenburg coins were 10g but of a lower finess of silver (.625).

    Now if you came up with a Graf Zepplin 5 marks that would definitely qualify: on coolness factor alone.
     
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  8. jgenn

    jgenn World Crown Collector

    You have one of the few issues that shows Philip II of Spain with his title as King of England (jointly with Queen Mary). Mine is from Flanders. See this for more info.

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  9. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    I saw one of those Graf Zeppelin 5 Mark coins on eBay once. It was indeed cool.
    I bid on it, but it very quickly went way beyond my pocket. I think it sold for about $95 to 100. It's way more than that now.

    Try this one :

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  10. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    Very nice but quite expensive. I too bid on one a while ago but didn't win it. Also I'm finding that I have to limit myself to country. I like Latin America, the Republican or early Independence eras. Also Poland.

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    A crown: Bolivia, 8 Soles, 1827, NGC-63. This is the 1st portrait piece of Simon Bolivar. It cost about 1/2 as much as that expensive EBay coin in 2006. Incidentally NGC no longer lists an ms-63 1827. I know this coin is better than a 62, it's not the ms-65 unless they upgraded me without telling me & don't think it's PCGS but will have to check their census data.

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    Another crown: Ecuador, 5 Francs (not Frangos!), 1858, NGC-65. This is Ecuador's 2nd crown.

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    Another crown: Poland, (Stanislaus II August Poniatowski) 1766, mint state
    (H. Karolkiewicz: Triton IV auction, Dec. 6th, 2000, lot# 2450).
    I think this one was still cheaper than that EBay coin tho. In European crowns I go back to 1486.
     
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  11. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    As far as i know it's not related to the 30 years war!It was just a common HAll issue
    in the name of Archduke Maximilian, Grandmaster of the Teutonic order, similar pieces being struck in 1615,1616!He actually died in 1618 and i've previously posted a posthumous issue(1619)in his name, struck in Alsace. What i know is that in 1648, show talers/medals were issued to mark the Peace of Westphalia(Munster) , the end of the 30 years and 80 years war!
     
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  12. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    My only Münster taler, the well known city view type of 1661! I think there are three varieties and a double Taler for the same date!

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  13. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I have never had the Zeppelin 5 Mark, but I did pick up these two just before the shutdown:
    Germany 5Mk 1928 G 1-horz.jpg Germany 5Mk 1929 A 1-horz.jpg
     
  14. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    @jgenn Great write up!I noticed the King of England title 3 years ago when i bought it, but never really bothered to research it to be honest!It's an interesting piece and hopefully i'll get one in a better grade! Also a countermarked one would be a nice addition too!
     
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  16. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    I have a few. Here's my newest.
    Egypt KM#407
    1964 (1384) 50 Piastres
    0.7200 fine, 0.4630 ASW
    250,000 uncirculated mintage
    40mm Polish_20200417_090647310.jpg Polish_20200417_090712559.jpg
     
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  17. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany Abbey of FULDA Heinrich VIII von Bibra Taler 1765

    Fulda Heinrich VIII v Bibra Taler 1765 LD obv 688.jpg Fulda Heinrich VIII v Bibra Taler 1765 LD rev 690.jpg
     
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  18. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Picked up my 11 year "dream coin", a Leopold I Thaler.

    So glad to get this off my wish list.

    Also my very first Thaler.

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    Leopold I, "Hogmouth" (1657 - 1705 A.D.)
    AR Thaler
    O: LEOPOLDVS D G RO I S A GER HV BO REX; Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right.
    R: ARCHIDVX AVS DVX BVR MAR MOR CO TY; 1692 Crowned imperial double-headed eagle, holding sword and sceptre; crowned arms on breast within Order of the Golden Fleece; K-B flanking tail.
    Kremnitz (Hungary) Mint
    47mm
    28.55g
    Davenport 3262; KM 214.3
     
  19. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    Congratulations!It's a beautiful coin!I have this funny habit of playing with a coin that i really like , whilst checking stuff on internet and guess what that coin is when i'm writing this? My 1695 KB, Leopold taler!!!
     
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  20. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I've actually been doing that with the coin recently. Ironic but glad I am not the only one.
     
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  21. wcg

    wcg Well-Known Member

    Talerman, I had to wipe the drool off my keyboard after seeing that Fulda piece! That is a scarce one. Following the Fulda theme is a more common 1788 Fulda taler :
    1788-fulda-ms63-both.jpg
     
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