World silver crown-size type coin collectors?

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  1. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Germany FRIEDBERG (Burg Friedberg in der Wetterau)
    Philipp Adolph von Rau zu Holzhausen, Burgrave Reichstaler 1690

    Friedberg Phil Adolph v Rau Taler 1690 obv 007.jpg Friedberg Phil Adolph v Rau Taler 1690 rev 009.jpg
     
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  3. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    1988 Netherlands 50 gulden 1988 NL 50 g obv.JPG 1988 NL 50 g rev.JPG
     
  4. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    This appears to be for 300th anniversary of William of Orange and Mary becoming King & Queen of England after forcing out James II. Does anyone have a William & Mary England Crown to compare the accolated busts ?
     
  5. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    I bet PaddyB has that crown you mention. Here is another Netherlands 50 gulden, 1982, rather cameo prooflike. 1982 NL 50 g obv.JPG 1982 NL 50 g rev.JPG
     
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  6. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    I understand this coin commemorates the United Provinces recognizing the United States in 1782, one of the first European states to do
     
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  7. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Sure do! They are not easy to come by in Crown size and I only have this one - I have most of the Half Crowns in better condition, but they don't fit in this thread.
    1692 Cr 1.JPG 1692 Cr 2.JPG
    William and Mary Crown 1692 with the blundered 2 in the date - this happened quite a lot with this design. I think the die makers found the format of the date as confusing as we still do.
     
  8. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Spanish Netherlands GELDERLAND Philip II Burgundian Rijksdaalder 1568

    Gelderland Philip II Burgundian Rijksdaalder 1568 obv 057.jpg Gelderland Philip II Burgundian Rijksdaalder 1568 rev 058.jpg
     
  9. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Interesting doubled die effect, especially in the first image. The green spots are there, I suppose, but what are those blue lines in the second one? Look like artifacts in the photo only ...

    Christian
     
  10. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

  11. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    1952 South Africa 5 shillings. Note the small VOC on the reverse, also Table Mountain in the background. 1952 SA 5 shilling obv.JPG 1952 SA 5 shilling rev.JPG
     
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  12. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    1542 kaufbeuren half taler ,Charles V, MB-11,Ref. N#24.
    The coin is in a poor condition and has a plugg mark, but i bought it because it's an interesting piece and the price was good for the overall damage. One thing that bugs me is that i couldn't find a similar piece in any previous sales. I did found one with the date divided by shield but not this variety!If any of you know more i'd be very grateful!

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  13. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Interesting coin. You are right, there are 2 varieties of this Half Taler, one with the arms divided by the date and yours with the date above the arms. Yours is KM.MB 11, Nau 24 and Bernhart 137. Your variety is rarer and worth significantly more.

    Here is the description of the two varieties in Nau (Die Münzen und Medaillen der Oberschwäbischen Städte) :

    Kaufbeuren 1542 Half Talers in Nau 136.jpg

    Here is the photo of your variety in Nau (sorry, scan of not very good photo):
    Kaufbeuren 1542 Half Taler Nau 24 135.jpg

    and here is the description of the two varieties in Bernhart ( Die Münzen der Reichsstadt Kaufbeuren - no pictures):

    Kaufbeuren 1542 Half Taler types in Bernhart 138.jpg
     
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  14. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    @talerman Thank you very much for your research!
     
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  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Probably not "broadstruck" so much as it is merely a bit off-center. I bought this Charles II English crown because I liked the toning.

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  16. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    I would grade that crown at about VF25-30 at least. Good looking coin.
     
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  17. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    LowCountries GRONINGEN Ommelanden (Territory) Daalder of 30 Stuiver n.d. (1584) Imitation of Aachen Reichstaler

    Groninger Ommelanden Daalder of 30 st  nd (1584) obv 541.jpg Groninger Ommelanden Daalder of 30 st nd (1584) rev 544.jpg

    Groningen was historically part of Friesland. and dominated a large part of Friesland from the 15th century. Under so called ‘Staple Rights.’ the ‘Ommelanden’ (territories around Groningen) had to trade their grain in the city and were allowed to brew beer for personal use only. Opposition against the Staple Rights increased and in 1575, the Ommelanden seceded from the city. In 1579, the Ommelanden signed the Union of Utrecht and joined the Calvinist rebellion against Spain. They also resisted the authorities in other parts of Friesland. After the city (Catholic and pro-Spanish) capitulated to Dutch forces in 1594, the States General decided to combine the city and the Ommelanden into a seventh voting province.
     
  18. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    Yes absolutely really low pop vs US.
     
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  19. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    A 5 pengő fron Hungary, 1930. From back when the pengő was still worth anything...
    Hungary 5 pengő 1930.jpeg
     
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  20. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    1996 Bahamas 1 dollar. Big coin, 38.61 mm, 31.1 grams, AR .999 1996 Bahamas 1 d obv.JPG 1996 Bahamas 1 d rev.JPG
     
  21. PaulTudor

    PaulTudor Well-Known Member

    1621 Erfurt taler

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