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<p>[QUOTE="Stork, post: 3608043, member: 71642"]A couple of modestly graded Japanese coins that were actually a bit of a score. </p><p><br /></p><p>They were lumped as a lot in a random Heritage weekly world auction with a very low estimate. One was even labeled with the variety, and either could have stood on its own merits. They weren't quite overlooked as I did pay twice the estimate...but not quite the catalog (JNDA). Either of the coins could have justified the final price.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first is the 'long year' variant of the 1873 50 sen. This is a VERY difficult coin to get. My first one was a relatively recent purchase out of a Japanese auction. At the time I felt thrilled to get one in an AU details/environmental damage slab. Never figured to get an MS one. Depending on grade the catalog values are 2.5-10x their 'short year' sibling. Even in the lowest grades this has value which is not always true in the Japanese catalog. </p><p><br /></p><p>Plus the NGC pops are off a bit as I have a normal 'short year' version in a 65 slab that is labeled 'long'. I'm taking that one back to get the label fixed next show I get to. </p><p><br /></p><p>In any case, this one is a modest NGC MS-62. Nothing exciting other than the variety, and much nicer. Super happy to have upgraded this one for a deal. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]966087[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The other one is not labeled as a variety. Now NGC will sometimes designate 'stem open' or 'closed' (the translation is more 'stem cut facing up' though). I'm guessing this one was sent in without a variety request, or they don't do it for this year. NGC uses Krause which is suboptimal. PCGS would probably have gotten it right. </p><p><br /></p><p>For a handful of years the reverse has 'stem cut facing up' or 'down' variants. The scarce one in the year varies though. For 1897 the scarcity is 'up'. Again, scarce enough that even the uncirculated versions are many multiples of value. 6-40X values. This one is an AU-58, and the reverse is not the best color...but it's the only one I've ever seen. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]966088[/ATTACH] </p><p>Not the most gorgeous coin, but better than what the photo implies.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Stork, post: 3608043, member: 71642"]A couple of modestly graded Japanese coins that were actually a bit of a score. They were lumped as a lot in a random Heritage weekly world auction with a very low estimate. One was even labeled with the variety, and either could have stood on its own merits. They weren't quite overlooked as I did pay twice the estimate...but not quite the catalog (JNDA). Either of the coins could have justified the final price. The first is the 'long year' variant of the 1873 50 sen. This is a VERY difficult coin to get. My first one was a relatively recent purchase out of a Japanese auction. At the time I felt thrilled to get one in an AU details/environmental damage slab. Never figured to get an MS one. Depending on grade the catalog values are 2.5-10x their 'short year' sibling. Even in the lowest grades this has value which is not always true in the Japanese catalog. Plus the NGC pops are off a bit as I have a normal 'short year' version in a 65 slab that is labeled 'long'. I'm taking that one back to get the label fixed next show I get to. In any case, this one is a modest NGC MS-62. Nothing exciting other than the variety, and much nicer. Super happy to have upgraded this one for a deal. [ATTACH=full]966087[/ATTACH] The other one is not labeled as a variety. Now NGC will sometimes designate 'stem open' or 'closed' (the translation is more 'stem cut facing up' though). I'm guessing this one was sent in without a variety request, or they don't do it for this year. NGC uses Krause which is suboptimal. PCGS would probably have gotten it right. For a handful of years the reverse has 'stem cut facing up' or 'down' variants. The scarce one in the year varies though. For 1897 the scarcity is 'up'. Again, scarce enough that even the uncirculated versions are many multiples of value. 6-40X values. This one is an AU-58, and the reverse is not the best color...but it's the only one I've ever seen. [ATTACH=full]966088[/ATTACH] Not the most gorgeous coin, but better than what the photo implies.[/QUOTE]
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