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Gallienus, is that 8 Escudos KM 84? Thought it was only minted to 1834. Not in my Cat.

 

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Hi Derick,

Actually the Dos Bandaras or 2 Flags type 8 escudos were continued on beyond 1834 as "engraver trials". I was told by Carlos Jaras, the Chilean Numistmatist that they were issued in small quantities up to 1843 I believe. Another weird or pattern Chilean coin I have is this Silver 2 Flags 8 Pesos or 4 escudos pattern dated 1845


I hade the opportunity to pick up many nice Chilean coins at Millennia such as the 1836 8E overstruck on an 1826 8E in AU as well as an unc (NGC?-62 but hairlined) 1826 8E but I didn't do it. In 2012, I've had a pretty good year, I got 2 crowns, some rare minors, and 3 major ancient coins so I shouldn't be greedy. Oh, one more Chilean, I got this at Eliasberg (2005) where it was very conservatively graded NGC-62 for exactly $2,000: which now seems cheap.


Thanks for the info on the 1795 So 8R. I really need to read more. This is it for my Chilean Collection (aside from modern stuff). I have semi-decent collections of Argentina & Peru. Argentina is always having severe economic problems so they're selling their coins.

 

You have some very nice coins there, Gallienus. I did not buy anything at the Millenia Sales - they had some incredible Chilean and other coins.
For some reason I am more attracted to silver coins, than to gold when it comes to Latin American Colonial or early republican, but the early republican gold is nice too. Please post your Chilean coins (crowns and minors) if you have the opportunity. Ii would be very nice to see them.

 

Would you guys be interested in a group album. There are many people out there, inluding cataloggers, that have never seen these specimens?

 

This is a escudo dated 1838, with the popular 'Hand on Book' design (the book of the chilean constitution). A nice coin with luster.

Likewise lustrous is this 2 reales coin dated 1850. These coins exists in 1/2, 1, 2 and 8 reales denominations. All of them bearing the design of a condor breaking the chains (of spanish subjugation). An interesting and evocative design.

 

I think I would want the coin authenticated if it were mine. Especially if the cost were more than $150 which from your description it probably is.

 

Just in today :hail:




PS - I'm still confused over here http://www.cointalk.com/t218041/ If someone could help me out, I would be most grateful. - Thanks!

 

Nice coin, but an odd (and pretty arbitrary) jubilee. The Millennium of the Rhinelands? Umm, they had been there before. What the coin actually commemorates is that, in 925, Heinrich I, duke of Saxony and king of the Holy Roman Empire, got the duchy of Lorraine, which he "lost" a couple of years before, under his control again.

Christian

 

I would be very interested in a hard copy album with comments.

 

+1

 

here's my latest...



crispus (317-326), ae3, nicomedia mint (317-320)
obv: laureate and draped bust left, holding globe, scepter, and mappa
D N FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES

rev: jupiter standing left, chlamys across left shoulder, holding sceptre and victory on a globe offering a wreath. palm branch in left field, dot over A in right field.
PROVIDENTIAE CAESS

(ric vii 31) R4

 

Chile 2001 50 pesos pattern

Got this one today. When the 100 pesos design was changed to the Mapuche theme in 2001, the Casa moneda also considered a change in the 50 pesos. This did not happen yet, they stuck with O Higgens. Below is the pattern for this proposed design. The reverse is similar to the 1971 5 Escudos. Could not find this coin catalogged anywhere.

 

The 5 Escudos 1971

 

Very nice Derick!

 

Thanx.

 

Nice pieces, particularly the gold escudo. I guess these were made in very small quantity for payment of government debts or government VIPs and were made for local circulation rather than for foreign exchange/export? I Googled the following:

1540 Santiago is founded
1700 The population of Chile is about 100,000
1800 The population of Chile reaches about 500,000
1810 After the king of Spain is deposed the leading citizens of Chile elect a junta
1814 A Royalist army occupies Santiago
1817 The Royalists are defeated at Chabuco
1818 Chile becomes independent

I'd guess that the population of Chile in 1838 was maybe 200% greater than in 1800 so maybe a pop of 1 million persons? One can do a mathematical regression and get a better guess even without more census info. Since they only struck 6,122 HOB 1 escudos of this year and this is the only year they struck the type I'm not sure how it impacted the economy. Clearly it wasn't made for export purposes. Maybe they made them to show they could make them and again for important employees? I guess they used British pounds and French 20F's for almost all transactions requiring gold?? As you know these coins [Latin American issues] were legal tender in the USA until 1857.


I'm having a hard enough time just getting some of the basic types in the crown sizes which are the most common. This is a very nice & rare 1E.

Regarding your comment about a compendium that might be interesting. I've talked with World Coin News about writing a series of articles on the history and coins of the early Latin American (+ Brasil) Republics. However I get too busy with work sometimes.

My Chilean coins are shown on my website: coinsandhistory the link is here : http://www.coinsandhistory.com/countries/Chile.html
I've had this website for about 11 years and cannot recall one comment about any of the types displayed. Also everyone at the local (Florida) coin club collects USA Kennedy Half dollars (1964-present) and maybe a few other US coins, they have no idea about any non-USA coinage at all- that's why I joined this group.

 

Heinrich Himmler, a man in dire need of hallucination management, believed
himself to be the reincarnation of King Heindrick. And that it was his
destiny to repel invaders from the east from his perch at Wewelsburg
castle.

 

That coin was issued in 1925, but sure, some will say that everything German is somehow nazi-related. By the way, for the same reason, Himmler wanted to turn the cathedral (well, collegiate church) in Quedlinburg into a memorial that would draw a parallel between Heinrich I and Heinrich H. - well, today the place looks different again. Just visited the castle/church a few days ago; they currently have a "branch" show of the big Otto I exhibition there ...

Christian