World Coin Proofs and ANACS grades

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by cplradar, Sep 20, 2021.

  1. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    bvi_1975_group.png I purchased a proof set of the 1975 British Virgin Islands which, was actually short a dollar coin, I believe. But the price was right and I had them sent into ANACS. Initially they looked like this raw.

    Now what is cool is that ANACS had very few graded example of these in their populations. It usually takes some decent experience with a design in order to grade them and develop a standard. So, these being relatively new to them, the grades are very interesting.

    Let's see the graded results. BTW - I think they worked on them a little as part of the grading.

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    I think the nice results here might encourage others to grade these BVI coins. They are really lovely - More images to follow
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  3. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

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  5. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    This one graded a high PF68

    But I like this design. The tail splits through the legend on the bottom, giving it an extra three dimensional effect

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  6. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    On this 50 cent peice, the bird also comes forward of the lettering. It is somewhat unique and very cool, again, adding dimension and it pops. This is also graded PF 68

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  7. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    OK - So what happened with the GRADES!
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  9. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    BTW - these are marked Franklin Mint -FM. I am not sure where the mint marks are, but that is the designation.
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I don't think there's an FM mintmark on them (unless I overlooked one). That's just the catalog shorthand. I think in some countries (Bahamas, maybe?) there were non-Franklin Mint issues as well as Franklin Mint proofs in the same years, so they put that "FM" after the date to distinguish them. Not a mintmark so much as a variety abbreviation.

    What's the ANACS submission fee? And is it higher for World coins than US?

    If they're cheap enough, and don't discriminate like that, I might send some of my less expensive World stuff to them.
  11. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    If it was struck by the Franklin Mint there will be their FM logo on it. Ostensibly on the reverse. I see it on all your reverses quite clearly
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  12. TheGame

    TheGame Well-Known Member

    The mint marks are on the reverse, position varies by denomination. In the case of BVI, I don't think there are any non-FM coins during the period that mint existed.

    Most countries that utilized the Franklin Mint for set coins had a different mint make the circulation coins*. Apart from 1970 set coins for Bahamas and Jamaica, FM coins should always have the mint mark unless there's an exception I'm forgetting.

    *The Bahamas and Liberia had FM make proper circulating coins for a couple years, and there are also cases of unsold/extra set coins being released to circulation.

    As for the coins, they look nice, and the grades make sense. While the initial quality of FM coins is usually very high, some were handled better than others over the years and so lower grades such as the MS65 1c aren't unusual.
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I see a pair of symbols there, but I'm having trouble interpreting either of them as "FM" or anything like that. What are they? I mean, I know the coins were struck by the Franklin Mint, but what are those symbols supposed to represent?
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  14. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    no, they tax foriegn coins. It is not terrible

    $14 dollars for post 1950 coins, with a 5 coin mimum. That is only $2 more than the economic modern US coins.
  15. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    what does it look like?
  16. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    when it first came back 1977-FM I was so excite! I was like WOW it is FM! (what is FM)?

    not quite like FH or FSB
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  17. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    It is an F with an M as the lower crossbar. You might see it clearer on one of mine, under the date on this one
  18. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

    BTW - They did conservation on the 25 cent, 10c, 50c
  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Aha! I see it now. I mean, I saw it before, but I didn't understand the layout of the logo.

    Never knew that was there. Thanks.

    Off to go look at my 1973-FM Bahamian coin, now...
  20. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum

  21. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    The FM mintmark/monogram is readily seen on all the above BVI examples mostly on the reverse next to the birds. Post pictures and glad to help on individual coins or questions. Which Bahamas denomination?
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