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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 330096, member: 6370"]If the buyer is dropping negatives every sell and showing a pattern, ebay said they will take action...that remains to be seen. </p><p> </p><p>I dont know what ebay some people use...but all these horror stories and expectations of evil awful people. Now trust me...I KNOW they are out there...but I think besides the fake sellers and the scammers, most people there are just trying to do honest business. I have never given a negative and no seller has ever given me one...I just dont see the huge numbers of jerks out there trying to ruin every seller they come across...</p><p> </p><p>I have come across some jerks, settled with them and moved on...sometimes I think some people who have all these problems probably just shouldn't be on ebay...they are either jerks to the buyers (or sellers), not completely honest, not fair with returns (often after they have not been honest).</p><p> </p><p>I have seen people run here to complain on a regular basis about some new ebay drama...often times, I can tell by the listing, the way they post, their demeanor, why they have problems...</p><p> </p><p>We have seen just what they are trying to eliminate here recently...a bad buyer with terrible business practice and a liar refuses to honor a sell...gets a negative for it, then retaliates with a negative (and lies in the feedback about the buyer) and bullies the buyer into removing the negative thus his honest feedback doesn't stand unless that honest buyer wants a negative as well. Its abuse of the system.</p><p> </p><p>Of course I think sellers need a bit more reward for being a good honest seller as well, and recourse if they happen to come across a terrible buyer (which I am sure exists) but I deal with some sellers who have sold THOUSANDS of items on ebay with 100% positive feedback. These guys dont have the 'mutually withdrawn' message all over the feedback either so they aren't getting bad feedback then bullying the buyer to remove it...they are just good sellers.</p><p> </p><p>When you do business, you might have to deal with an ass once in awhile, if you aren't prepared for that, IMO, you aren't prepared to do business anywhere, not just ebay.</p><p> </p><p>And think about it...when I go to a restaurant, there are often feedback cards at the table, many different brick and mortar businesses have some way to garner feedback both negative and positive. How many times have you given a business or restaurant a card to fill out to rate you as a customer?</p><p> </p><p>In the end I think this might be a good thing as long as sellers who DO come across real bad buyers have some recourse, or ebay is prepared to take action against buyers with poor transaction history. Its my opinion that they are few and far between anyway for a good seller and a negative will now disappear after awhile so it wont mar your feedback if you just get one here and there. I know there are bad buyers out there, just my opinion but IMO there are far more scum sellers out there looking to scam and not prepared for what it takes to sell on ebay. There are people making money on ebay with stellar reputations.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 330096, member: 6370"]If the buyer is dropping negatives every sell and showing a pattern, ebay said they will take action...that remains to be seen. I dont know what ebay some people use...but all these horror stories and expectations of evil awful people. Now trust me...I KNOW they are out there...but I think besides the fake sellers and the scammers, most people there are just trying to do honest business. I have never given a negative and no seller has ever given me one...I just dont see the huge numbers of jerks out there trying to ruin every seller they come across... I have come across some jerks, settled with them and moved on...sometimes I think some people who have all these problems probably just shouldn't be on ebay...they are either jerks to the buyers (or sellers), not completely honest, not fair with returns (often after they have not been honest). I have seen people run here to complain on a regular basis about some new ebay drama...often times, I can tell by the listing, the way they post, their demeanor, why they have problems... We have seen just what they are trying to eliminate here recently...a bad buyer with terrible business practice and a liar refuses to honor a sell...gets a negative for it, then retaliates with a negative (and lies in the feedback about the buyer) and bullies the buyer into removing the negative thus his honest feedback doesn't stand unless that honest buyer wants a negative as well. Its abuse of the system. Of course I think sellers need a bit more reward for being a good honest seller as well, and recourse if they happen to come across a terrible buyer (which I am sure exists) but I deal with some sellers who have sold THOUSANDS of items on ebay with 100% positive feedback. These guys dont have the 'mutually withdrawn' message all over the feedback either so they aren't getting bad feedback then bullying the buyer to remove it...they are just good sellers. When you do business, you might have to deal with an ass once in awhile, if you aren't prepared for that, IMO, you aren't prepared to do business anywhere, not just ebay. And think about it...when I go to a restaurant, there are often feedback cards at the table, many different brick and mortar businesses have some way to garner feedback both negative and positive. How many times have you given a business or restaurant a card to fill out to rate you as a customer? In the end I think this might be a good thing as long as sellers who DO come across real bad buyers have some recourse, or ebay is prepared to take action against buyers with poor transaction history. Its my opinion that they are few and far between anyway for a good seller and a negative will now disappear after awhile so it wont mar your feedback if you just get one here and there. I know there are bad buyers out there, just my opinion but IMO there are far more scum sellers out there looking to scam and not prepared for what it takes to sell on ebay. There are people making money on ebay with stellar reputations.[/QUOTE]
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