Wondering what kind of error this could be and possible value?

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  1. anomalous howard

    anomalous howard New Member

    Any help would be appreciated...thanks!

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  3. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Hmmm, sorry I'll lateral this one to the next guy.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    POST MINT DAMAGE
     
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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Not an error. Damage.
    How it was done, no clue. But it didn't come from the mint like that.
     
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  6. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    It looks like it's rapped in copper.
     
  7. anomalous howard

    anomalous howard New Member

    Any idea what could have done that?
    The diameter is smaller than normal but the rim of the coin is still there.
     
  8. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    The first thing that came to mind is brockage (spelling?). I don't know though
     
  9. anomalous howard

    anomalous howard New Member

    Also, if you look a bit closely at the obverse, the letters RT of the word "LIBERTY" run up to Lincoln's back with no room for the Y.
     
  10. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Very interesting for sure. I've never seen anything quite like it before. If it is post mint, it's a work of art.
     
  11. anomalous howard

    anomalous howard New Member

    And if it's not post mint? I can't find any example of anything like it myself. I've spent days searching error coin pics and seen a lot of post mint examples too.

    I've had it for about 10 years and never checked into it before. Mostly just forgot about it. It's one of those things that when you finally get around to checking, it's quite the nagging problem.
     
  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    If it's not post mint then you may have something quite unique but it seems everyone so far is on the page of PMD. We are not always the do all, end all here but I would hang onto it until you might come across an error dealer, not just any old coin dealer, and present it in person for an evaluation. You might want to contact Fred Weinberg in Ca. who specializes in errors. Possibly send him this photo in an email for starters and see what he says. But by all means, do a little more leg work on this and please get back to us if you find something out. I will admit, there are a lot of folks who have a lot of time on their hands to create these type of things, but you just never know for sure until you have exhausted all your options.
     
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  13. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Looks like a strip of foil wrapped around it. You could peel it off, of course then you would have destroyed it. @mikediamond will have good input.
     
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  15. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    acid, fire, building drop on it ...
     
  16. anomalous howard

    anomalous howard New Member

    Thank you for the suggestion. I'll try to contact him.
    Since the diameter is even a tiny bit smaller than a dime it's possible that it's a full penny's worth of material or it started out as a full penny then the outer circumference was evenly cut off with that part of it wrapped over the edge and then the rim was formed. Other than the obvious separation toward the central part of the "wrapping" it really appears to be part of the coin as it approaches the rim.
    The edge is smooth as if the rim was formed after it was wrapped.

    But that might not make sense since the part that would be cut off would be longer than the resulting circumference and would then overlap itself after one time around...which it doesn't do.

    Maybe I should get it weighed to see if it is a full penny's worth of copper.

    Thanks again to everyone for your help .
     
  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Weighing is a good thought, I don't think it will take too long for Mike to show up.
     
  18. TJ1952

    TJ1952 Well-Known Member

    Wrapped
     
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  19. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Looks like it was heated then the metal was pushed from the rim toward the center and then circulated (just a guess)
     
  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    What would happen if you tried to make a coin ring out of a cent by hammering or spooning the edges all around but then just folded the extra thin material down?
     
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  21. anomalous howard

    anomalous howard New Member

    That nearly sounds like a decent explanation. I don't know if it would be so smooth around the edge, no evidence of any hammering.
    And it's about as perfectly round as it could be. It rolls perfectly smoothly.
    It's hard to imagine what you describe could be done to such a degree so as to produce this thing in the state that it's in.
     
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