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<p>[QUOTE="jgenn, post: 4302128, member: 78525"]Very accurate die transfer technology has been around since the mid-1800's*. It's not clear to me what you mean by "recent counterfeit" and does it really matter how recently it was faked, since it's not a contemporary counterfeit?</p><p><br /></p><p>* from Wikipedia: "Sculptors use a three-dimensional version of the pantograph,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-5" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-5" rel="nofollow">[5]</a> usually a large boom connected to a fixed point at one end, bearing two rotating pointing needles at arbitrary points along this boom. By adjusting the needles different enlargement or reduction ratios can be achieved. This device, now largely overtaken by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_manufacturing" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_manufacturing" rel="nofollow">computer guided</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNC_Router" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNC_Router" rel="nofollow">router</a> systems that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_scanner" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_scanner" rel="nofollow">scan</a> a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_model" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_model" rel="nofollow">model</a> and can produce it in a variety of materials and in any desired size,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-castro2003-6" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-castro2003-6" rel="nofollow">[6]</a> was invented by inventor and steam pioneer <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watt" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watt" rel="nofollow">James Watt</a> (1736–1819) and perfected by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_Cheverton&action=edit&redlink=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_Cheverton&action=edit&redlink=1" rel="nofollow">Benjamin Cheverton</a> (1796–1876) in 1836. Cheverton's machine was fitted with a rotating cutting bit to carve reduced versions of well-known sculptures.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-7" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-7" rel="nofollow">[7]</a> A three-dimensional pantograph can also be used to enlarge sculpture by interchanging the position of the model and the copy.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-8" rel="nofollow">[8]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-9" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-9" rel="nofollow">[9]</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Another version is still very much in use to reduce the size of large <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief" rel="nofollow">relief</a> designs for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin" rel="nofollow">coins</a> down to the required size of the coin.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-10" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-10" rel="nofollow">[10]</a>"[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="jgenn, post: 4302128, member: 78525"]Very accurate die transfer technology has been around since the mid-1800's*. It's not clear to me what you mean by "recent counterfeit" and does it really matter how recently it was faked, since it's not a contemporary counterfeit? * from Wikipedia: "Sculptors use a three-dimensional version of the pantograph,[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-5'][5][/URL] usually a large boom connected to a fixed point at one end, bearing two rotating pointing needles at arbitrary points along this boom. By adjusting the needles different enlargement or reduction ratios can be achieved. This device, now largely overtaken by [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_manufacturing']computer guided[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNC_Router']router[/URL] systems that [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_scanner']scan[/URL] a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_model']model[/URL] and can produce it in a variety of materials and in any desired size,[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-castro2003-6'][6][/URL] was invented by inventor and steam pioneer [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watt']James Watt[/URL] (1736–1819) and perfected by [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_Cheverton&action=edit&redlink=1']Benjamin Cheverton[/URL] (1796–1876) in 1836. Cheverton's machine was fitted with a rotating cutting bit to carve reduced versions of well-known sculptures.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-7'][7][/URL] A three-dimensional pantograph can also be used to enlarge sculpture by interchanging the position of the model and the copy.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-8'][8][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-9'][9][/URL] Another version is still very much in use to reduce the size of large [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief']relief[/URL] designs for [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coin']coins[/URL] down to the required size of the coin.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph#cite_note-10'][10][/URL]"[/QUOTE]
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