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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4301018, member: 112"]As has been explained by others, the coin didn't look like that when I bought it new. And yes, I carried that specific one in my pocket, with 4 quarters and a pocket knife, every day for 7 years. And I also used it as my flipping coin - as in, I'll flip ya for it. That is how it acquired the wear you see. What's more, there were 3 other 1 oz AGE coins that I carried in my pocket, each during different time periods, in the years before I owned and carried that one. In other words, over a period of time exceeding a couple of decades, I always had a 1 oz AGE as my pocket coin/flipping coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, the point of me posting this one for you was to illustrate just how much or how little weight a coin actually loses due wear over a long period of time. </p><p><br /></p><p>So, given the numbers you used - 33.931 and 33.5 - your guess is that it lost about 0.431 grams of weight due to wear. </p><p><br /></p><p>In point of fact the coin lost 0.003 grams of weight due to that much wear. So to answer your question, you were off by 0.428 grams.</p><p><br /></p><p>And no I don't have too many zeros in there, that is precisely how much weight it lost due to wear - three thousandths of a gram. Almost none at all in other words. And as I said in the previous post that number is based what the coin actually weighed the day I bought it, brand new and nearly perfectly like they all are, and what the coin actually weighed that day I took that picture.</p><p><br /></p><p>My point of course in all of this was to illustrate that coins lose very, very little weight due to wear - until that wear reaches extremes. Only then do they begin to lose any appreciable weight at all. And extremes are defined as being a Good grade or lower. </p><p><br /></p><p>Are there ever exceptions ? Yes, but very few. I have never seen a single coin, not even one, that lost enough weight to take it lower than its specified tolerance level until it reached at least low VG condition. Based on the thousands of coins of all denominations and composition that I have tested 99% of them retained minimum specified weight until they got G or lower.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4301018, member: 112"]As has been explained by others, the coin didn't look like that when I bought it new. And yes, I carried that specific one in my pocket, with 4 quarters and a pocket knife, every day for 7 years. And I also used it as my flipping coin - as in, I'll flip ya for it. That is how it acquired the wear you see. What's more, there were 3 other 1 oz AGE coins that I carried in my pocket, each during different time periods, in the years before I owned and carried that one. In other words, over a period of time exceeding a couple of decades, I always had a 1 oz AGE as my pocket coin/flipping coin. Anyway, the point of me posting this one for you was to illustrate just how much or how little weight a coin actually loses due wear over a long period of time. So, given the numbers you used - 33.931 and 33.5 - your guess is that it lost about 0.431 grams of weight due to wear. In point of fact the coin lost 0.003 grams of weight due to that much wear. So to answer your question, you were off by 0.428 grams. And no I don't have too many zeros in there, that is precisely how much weight it lost due to wear - three thousandths of a gram. Almost none at all in other words. And as I said in the previous post that number is based what the coin actually weighed the day I bought it, brand new and nearly perfectly like they all are, and what the coin actually weighed that day I took that picture. My point of course in all of this was to illustrate that coins lose very, very little weight due to wear - until that wear reaches extremes. Only then do they begin to lose any appreciable weight at all. And extremes are defined as being a Good grade or lower. Are there ever exceptions ? Yes, but very few. I have never seen a single coin, not even one, that lost enough weight to take it lower than its specified tolerance level until it reached at least low VG condition. Based on the thousands of coins of all denominations and composition that I have tested 99% of them retained minimum specified weight until they got G or lower.[/QUOTE]
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