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<p>[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 4749092, member: 110350"]I don't feel marginalized or excluded by the fact that I'm one of only a small number of women who participate here. Nobody seems to have assumed that I don't know what I'm talking about, and nobody has treated me with any lack of respect. And I'm not someone who is hesitant to speak her mind! However, at least for me, it's a great deal easier to be in the tiny minority in an online group than it would be in person, where I'm much more likely to feel shy, intimidated, and/or somewhat overwhelmed. (Part of that is the fact that I'm quite small, only 5' 2", and don't enjoy being in a group of men who generally tower over me -- whether it's in a crowded elevator or on a crowded convention floor.)</p><p><br /></p><p>An example is how I've felt every time I've attended the NYINC -- perhaps a half-dozen times in the last 20+ years? (It must be that long, because I remember going when it was held at the World Trade Center.) Most recently, when I went to the NYINC this past January (it seems a lifetime ago!) -- the first time I'd been there in a few years -- there were only a handful of women, including me, out of hundreds of patrons. And yes, even though nobody did anything to make me uncomfortable, and nobody ignored me when I asked to see, e.g., a dealer's Roman Republican coin stock, I felt a bit uncomfortable and overwhelmed nonetheless. It seemed very noticeable to me -- and I doubt that many male patrons noticed this -- that there were more women behind the dealers' tables than in front of them, but that not many seemed to be the actual persons in charge, as opposed to being assistants. In fact, several dealers, who shall remain nameless. seem to have decided to have very young, thin, fashionably-dressed, conventionally attractive women standing there to look pretty, and to say "I have to wait until ____ is free to give you a price on that." Or perhaps I'm just being cynical, and they were all devoted numismatic scholars rather than interns being used to attract male customers. But as I interpreted it, right or wrong, it simply increased my discomfort.</p><p><br /></p><p>As the column says, "I know how difficult it is to bring women to numismatic events. What I have always heard is that there are just too many men." A few people commenting in this thread have expressed disbelief or lack of understanding about that statement, but please don't underestimate what it feels like. Unfortunately, it can be a vicious circle, and can, by itself, inhibit the further involvement of women in numismatics.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DonnaML, post: 4749092, member: 110350"]I don't feel marginalized or excluded by the fact that I'm one of only a small number of women who participate here. Nobody seems to have assumed that I don't know what I'm talking about, and nobody has treated me with any lack of respect. And I'm not someone who is hesitant to speak her mind! However, at least for me, it's a great deal easier to be in the tiny minority in an online group than it would be in person, where I'm much more likely to feel shy, intimidated, and/or somewhat overwhelmed. (Part of that is the fact that I'm quite small, only 5' 2", and don't enjoy being in a group of men who generally tower over me -- whether it's in a crowded elevator or on a crowded convention floor.) An example is how I've felt every time I've attended the NYINC -- perhaps a half-dozen times in the last 20+ years? (It must be that long, because I remember going when it was held at the World Trade Center.) Most recently, when I went to the NYINC this past January (it seems a lifetime ago!) -- the first time I'd been there in a few years -- there were only a handful of women, including me, out of hundreds of patrons. And yes, even though nobody did anything to make me uncomfortable, and nobody ignored me when I asked to see, e.g., a dealer's Roman Republican coin stock, I felt a bit uncomfortable and overwhelmed nonetheless. It seemed very noticeable to me -- and I doubt that many male patrons noticed this -- that there were more women behind the dealers' tables than in front of them, but that not many seemed to be the actual persons in charge, as opposed to being assistants. In fact, several dealers, who shall remain nameless. seem to have decided to have very young, thin, fashionably-dressed, conventionally attractive women standing there to look pretty, and to say "I have to wait until ____ is free to give you a price on that." Or perhaps I'm just being cynical, and they were all devoted numismatic scholars rather than interns being used to attract male customers. But as I interpreted it, right or wrong, it simply increased my discomfort. As the column says, "I know how difficult it is to bring women to numismatic events. What I have always heard is that there are just too many men." A few people commenting in this thread have expressed disbelief or lack of understanding about that statement, but please don't underestimate what it feels like. Unfortunately, it can be a vicious circle, and can, by itself, inhibit the further involvement of women in numismatics.[/QUOTE]
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