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<p>[QUOTE="houston_ray, post: 496609, member: 1943"]Here's another thread I alluded to as part of an earlier post:</p><p><br /></p><p>I have listened, read, and wrung my hands over the current scourge of coin collecting: cleaned coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>While I recognize the need for sound grading/technical evaluation (particularly on high-end coins), I would like to voice my opinion for the majority of us "regular Joe" individual collectors.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course, seeking feedback based upon your perspective.</p><p><br /></p><p>Coins that have been harshly cleaned are fairly easy to detect. Forgetting about value, they generally don't look good. They don't "belong" in the set when side-by-side with the others, even in circulated grades.</p><p><br /></p><p>However</p><p><br /></p><p>I think there is too much fussing over "wiped" coins. Not dipped, scoured, or whizzed...just likely been wiped over well with a cloth at some point in the past. They are a bit "shinier" than a coin that's been left in a box for 50 or 100 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>For relatively common dates, circulated grades, I think there's too much fretting over this.</p><p><br /></p><p>Many numismatic experts believe that up to three-quarters of "old" coins were "cleaned" at some point. Some retone to a degree. Some less so.</p><p><br /></p><p>I read about guys ponying up $30 fee to get a $50 coin graded, and I wonder about it. What do you think? Maybe the grading services are doing a good marketing job? I have never had anything graded unless I thought it was worth well over $200: 1909S VDB, 1914D or 1922P Lincolns, 1916D, 1921PD Mercury, not even my 1921PDS Walking halves.</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you think that what I'm calling "wiped" coins (which arguably may be rare or a huge majority of the silver collectibles out there depending on who you ask), are being made too big a deal?</p><p><br /></p><p>Recognize this is a personal point of view questions of course, but just thought I'd ask. If so inclined to respond, it might be nice to know your level and time at this great hobby. Perhaps some sagely advice will work its way in.....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="houston_ray, post: 496609, member: 1943"]Here's another thread I alluded to as part of an earlier post: I have listened, read, and wrung my hands over the current scourge of coin collecting: cleaned coins. While I recognize the need for sound grading/technical evaluation (particularly on high-end coins), I would like to voice my opinion for the majority of us "regular Joe" individual collectors. Of course, seeking feedback based upon your perspective. Coins that have been harshly cleaned are fairly easy to detect. Forgetting about value, they generally don't look good. They don't "belong" in the set when side-by-side with the others, even in circulated grades. However I think there is too much fussing over "wiped" coins. Not dipped, scoured, or whizzed...just likely been wiped over well with a cloth at some point in the past. They are a bit "shinier" than a coin that's been left in a box for 50 or 100 years. For relatively common dates, circulated grades, I think there's too much fretting over this. Many numismatic experts believe that up to three-quarters of "old" coins were "cleaned" at some point. Some retone to a degree. Some less so. I read about guys ponying up $30 fee to get a $50 coin graded, and I wonder about it. What do you think? Maybe the grading services are doing a good marketing job? I have never had anything graded unless I thought it was worth well over $200: 1909S VDB, 1914D or 1922P Lincolns, 1916D, 1921PD Mercury, not even my 1921PDS Walking halves. Do you think that what I'm calling "wiped" coins (which arguably may be rare or a huge majority of the silver collectibles out there depending on who you ask), are being made too big a deal? Recognize this is a personal point of view questions of course, but just thought I'd ask. If so inclined to respond, it might be nice to know your level and time at this great hobby. Perhaps some sagely advice will work its way in.....[/QUOTE]
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