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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;berneck1, post: 1897101, member: 24201&quot;]I think people need to accept that there is room in this hobby for everybody.&nbsp; I have no problem with the TPG&#039;s and their labels.&nbsp; They do provide a valuable service, not including the label.&nbsp; I personally don&#039;t buy a label, and neither should anybody else. However, that being said, there are people who see &quot;value&quot; in it.&nbsp; Why not capitalize on it?&nbsp; If I was able to get down to that event, I would have bought some baseball coins, have them graded, and flipped them.&nbsp; Nothing wrong with that either.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I also don&#039;t mind hearing when someone has great luck making money quickly on a particular issue; good for them!&nbsp; Sometimes it is all hype, sometimes they sell too soon! It is what it is.&nbsp; I feel like when someone complains about this &quot;bragging&quot; it&#039;s nothing more than sour grapes, or someone wishing they had that chance.&nbsp; Seems to be more and more the American way.&nbsp; The people who hate capitalism seem to be the ones who aren&#039;t successful at it.</p><p><br /></p><p>The real complaints should be directed at the Mint, and the dishonest dealers/flippers.&nbsp; I think most agree that the limits should be lower on EVERY new release, at least for the first day or two.&nbsp; Make it 5 for gold, 25 for silver and 100 for clad.&nbsp; I think that allows everybody a fair chance, and keeps it consistent as far as expectations go.&nbsp; IMO, the Mint has an obligation to allow everybody a reasonable chance.</p><p><br /></p><p>The thing I abhor the most are the dishonest people who sell these coins under a lie.&nbsp; Claims of being sold out or the misrepresentation of rarity, etc to take advantage of people should be sought out and exposed by all of us.&nbsp; Hype on the other hand is not dishonest.&nbsp; A lot of these coins trade on hype.&nbsp; Some win, some lose.</p><p><br /></p><p>You have to have winners and losers or the hobby, or anything for that matter, becomes boring and insignificant.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I prefer raw in ogp.&nbsp; I buy coins if I like them.&nbsp; If I REALLY like a particular coin, I&#039;ll buy one or two extra, in the hopes that it will increase in value.&nbsp; I&#039;m a collector first, and a investor/speculator second.&nbsp; Some people are just one or the other.&nbsp; Nothing wrong with that either.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think some people fail to recognize that it STILL comes down to the coin!&nbsp; That is exciting to me, and it&#039;s what makes me keep coming back.&nbsp; Yes, one label may command more of a premium than another.&nbsp; However, I think everybody will agree that the Girl Scout coin, or Civil Rights coin in a special label slab WILL NOT hold the premium that the Baseball silver will in ogp over time.&nbsp; Heck, outside of the price of silver, the clads will probably hold a better price.&nbsp; All the special slabs in the world aren&#039;t going to help an overly pc ugly coin compared to an elegant, unique and even nostalgic, coin like the Baseball HOF coin![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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