Message:

<p>[QUOTE=&quot;baseball21, post: 2393743, member: 76863&quot;]Going through their population report prior to 2003 70 grades for them were very hard to get.&nbsp; 69s were still pretty common though and the vast majority that were sent in fell in the 68-69 range.&nbsp; From 2003-2008 70s weren&#039;t the extreme percentage rarities they were before but still wouldn&#039;t be something you expected.&nbsp; As an example in the PCGS pop they have about 12k 70s, but about 360k in 68/69.&nbsp; The follow year was when 70s became almost expected and really had a massive increase.&nbsp; It definitely is true now that you either got the worst monster box ever or are doing it wrong if you consistently get below a 69 on them.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Even with those numbers it is hard to say if that is truly representative of the quality given bulk submitters can designate a minimum grade of 69 or lower where coins that don&#039;t meet that grade don&#039;t get slabbed plus smaller submitters bias to only send in their best.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Some of the grade limitatons on the toners very well could be production quality, in my opinion though they are more hesitate to assign a top pop grade to a toner for ASEs.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s an interesting question.&nbsp; Obviously only time will tell but if the current grading climate continues I think we will see the toners grades creep up from that 67-68 range and start seeing more 69s, but I do believe the percentage of 70s will be lower than we see in the general ASE population.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>The tricky part is then figuring out do we think that is a bias against ASE toners or is that just a grading bias with how they&#039;re submitted.&nbsp; Obviously you can&#039;t send in a monster box of toners so they go in small groups.&nbsp; With recent monster boxes we are already preconditioned that a certain percentage should/will be 70s making the grade more likely, whereas if someone shows up a single ASE or a couple ASEs there is no belief that there should be a 70 with numbers that small.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

Your name or email address:

Do you already have an account?

• No, create an account now.
• Yes, my password is:
• Forgot your password?

Stay logged in