WILD WAM! And where DID I put that D?

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  1. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    First one is unfortunate. I know the D is in there cause I can see it with my scope. Nothing significant but fun!
    Second one is the first 88 I’ve found. It’s not in to bad about condition for being in circulation for 30 years. I pulled these from a bank box of rerolls I got from the bank about 2 months ago. 08975328-8914-4D50-9654-A680203425BB.jpeg C0BD0225-10CB-4F86-946C-D7DF1A33A1BF.jpeg C210A89F-5F61-4785-9A52-370379F74696.jpeg C5E84818-342A-4659-A3A2-E2BFE8270DFA.jpeg 8D4E95BC-6344-4FED-88DE-CF0CA5149897.jpeg
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I thought the Wide AM was standard for the 80's.

    As for the 1984-D......poor, crappy Zincoln. It would be better off in a burial plot.

    Chris

    PS. No smilie is necessary. I am 100% serious.
     
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  4. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Nope 1988 & 1988D are the only two that could have the wide AM error of the Eighties coins I believe.
     
  5. furryfrog02

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  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    The two coins you are talking about are what's known as the Reverse of 1989 ( Flared G ) . Everything else your talking about, are used for Markers .......
     
  7. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    So this is just a marker? 1988-D, FS-01-1988D-901. I didn’t make it up it came right out of the cherrypickers Guide. If you notice the note on the text they state that the 1988D is the second rarest date. I might still be wrong but...... Rick I know your one of the heavy hitters here but my money is with Fivaz and Stanton. But this is a book that was printed over two years ago so things can change coins go on lists and come off.
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  8. bettann

    bettann Member

    The close and wide "AM" coins are some of the most confusing to figure out.
    That is pretty awesome to see that in Red Book?

    I just got the 98 "wide AM" and the 92 "close AM," figured out. I also got some of the large and small dates figured out. Just when I think I got it all down...someone posts something like the image you shared in that book! lol

    Is the wide AM for comparison? I have an 88 and the AM is wide. That's sort of how I differentiate between a "rare," error and a normal coin. Chances of finding just one are pretty slim. Even if it's not an error, it builds knowledge of the different varieties.

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  11. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

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  12. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Can you post a link please.
     
  13. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    http://varietyerrors.com/wide-am-and-close-am-lincoln-varieties/
    This is the link you posted
    1988 P Reverse of 1989 AKA RDV-006 1988 D Reverse of 1989 AKA RDV-006

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    These coins are from a Transitional Die. In 1989 the reverse dies were modified. On the 1989 reverse dies the vertical bar of the “ G ” in the designer’s initials shows a straight line at the top going inward and it drops down below the lower curve. In contrast the 1988 dies have a plain “ G ” with no fancy lines at all. This variety was first discovered in 2007. We believe that the die technicians grabbed some 1989 reverse or “tails” dies at the end of the 1988 year and paired them with the 1988 obverse or “heads” dies. The coin in question shows that 1988 obverse die paired with a 1989 reverse die. This is a very small detail change. Pay close attention to all 1988 cents as this variety can and has been overlooked. Currently the 1988 D has 11 different dies identified and the 1988 P has 7 different dies identified. However the number of “found” coins total 3 to 1 for the 1988 P over the 1988 D. A possible reason for this is that the Denver mint discovered the mix-up early in the striking of these coins, and removed all of the 1989 reverse dies. This is why the 1988 D is currently very rare and the 1988 P is just listed as rare. @cpm9ball @furryfrog02 @Rick Stachowski
     
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  14. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Your info not mine
    This was mine
    So this is just a marker? 1988-D, FS-01-1988D-901. I didn’t make it up it came right out of the cherrypickers Guide. If you notice the note on the text they state that the 1988D is the second rarest date. I might still be wrong but......my money is with Fivaz and Stanton. But this is a book that was printed over two years ago so things can change coins go on lists and come off.
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  15. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Bottom line is this. It’s real. I don’t care if it’s worth any money. I could give a rip about any numbers associated with this error. I found it, it’s mine and I’m putting it in MY collection.
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

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  17. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here's the date and mint-mark placement for the 88-D and yours matches none of them .

    Here's the first one ( Die 1 ) .
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    Here's the second ( Die 2 )
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    Here's the third ( Die 3 )
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    Now here's yours
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  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    This one looks like it came from Die 3 .
    http://varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1988DRDV0063.htm
     
  19. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Thank you for clearing that up.
    Reed
     
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  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The cherry pickers shouldn't mention the wide AM for the 1988 varieties because ALL 1988 cents have a wide AM. The PUP for the 88 rev of 89 is the change in the designers initials. Basically it is a flaw in the book that has confused a lot of people.
     
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