Wide Vs Close AM

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Francoin, May 29, 2017.

  1. Francoin

    Francoin Member

    Before I reveal the year wanted another opinion. Would this be considered a Wide AM or Close. Judge on from the FG, I would think close, however the AM is wide. Also the 88 Vs 89 year came to mind when the prior with the FG error, but nor sure that's possible in the 90s varieties. I've looked at Lincoln Resource and compared but can't tell.

    Pictures were taken under a magnifying glass, but let me know if they're blurry. :)
     

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  3. Vegasnay

    Vegasnay Active Member

    Close.. picture the space between A & E without the M. Now is the M evenly placed right in the middle of the two? Or does it sit closer to the A?
     
  4. Francoin

    Francoin Member

    Sits Closer to the A, but still seems too far. I understand it's possible to move. However can the dies create that much space
     

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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The spacing of a wide am should be the same as between M and E, etc.
     
  6. Francoin

    Francoin Member

    Think we commented at the same time. Would due deterioration cause the wide space, yet not wide AM?
     
  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I have to ask this question . Why are you not taking your images plumb ? There's no way to tell if this is a close or wide AM ...
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    From this image it's a close AM ... This is also a very late die state too .
     
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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Die deterioration should cause them to have an even effect.
    Die wear though seems to happen first at 12 o clock then spreads each way, from there.
     
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  10. Francoin

    Francoin Member

    Thanks. And the lighting was horrible whenever I tried anything but flat surface.
    Thanks!

    Lighting was horrible when I tried
     
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  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Some of these lincoln are tough to take images of .
    Here's a 88 I own with the reverse of a 89 .
    It also from die #1 .
    345.jpg 336.jpg SingleShot0065-3.jpg dbb5cklceh4u.jpg
     
  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    That's a nice example of a late die state coin with a WAM.
     
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  13. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I'd say at least stage D, maybe even later ...
     
  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Must have been a new batch of planchets, thick skinned, gas bubbles and all. I would expect to see more zinc showing,
    Nice pick,
    Ebay or a roll?
     
  15. Francoin

    Francoin Member

    How were you able to determine stage D? I'd like to read up as well
    ^Agreed very nice example
     
  16. Francoin

    Francoin Member

    :banghead:BTW : mine is a 1994-D, just threw me off seeing that much space. I've seen other close AMs with a little extra, but not this far. Now I feel like I might need to recheck all my 92s lol
     
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  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Ebay and here's some shots of the markers .
    SingleShot0023-3.jpg SingleShot0033-3.jpg SingleShot0000-3.jpg SingleShot0011-3.jpg SingleShot0027-3.jpg SingleShot0063-3.jpg SingleShot0056-3.jpg SingleShot0048-3.jpg SingleShot0037-3.jpg
     
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  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I imagine there could be. It all depends on when the die was put into use.
    If it was a last minute, and only used to finish out the cents struck for 92. Then,
    it most likely did not make it past an early die state, before being used on 93 cents.
     
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