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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 3596308, member: 99456"][USER=88829]@lrbguy[/USER] - thanks for sharing the OP and triggering an interesting discussion - I like the approach of matching a denarius and antoninianus as a milestone in a collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>Although I have a few coins, Julia Domna not an area of focus for me but the thoughts shared seem broadly applicable: price complicated by multiple objective and subjective factors : who shows up at the auction, style, metal, quality, rarity, availability...as every ancient coin is unique, there isn't a purely objective answer on price. Illustrating the subjectivity: would your coins as a pair (denarius and antoninianus), with a bit of their story attract a few extra bids?</p><p><br /></p><p>The table from [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER] is fun to look over and "play the game".</p><p><br /></p><p>There is more data available today with <a href="https://www.acsearch.info" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info" rel="nofollow">acsearch</a>, <a href="https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com" rel="nofollow">sixbid's new archive</a>, <a href="http://www.coryssa.org/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coryssa.org/" rel="nofollow">coryssa</a>, etc. to see trends and compare past examples.</p><p><br /></p><p>As the more common Venus Genetrix has not made an appearance - here's the coin (GBP 85) after all auction fees and postage...real costs which are not represented in a lot of databases or discussions of "what I paid".</p><p>[ATTACH=full]961826[/ATTACH]</p><p>IMO a much harsher portrait of Julia Domna on this coin. Maybe another factor in what someone is willing to pay? All other factors equal,would a prettier or happier Julia get a higher price? Is there a reference that does a nice job of highlighting how portraits have changed over time, with public perception, and across mints for a given emperor or empress? <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Coinage-Roman-Empresses-Antoniniani-Mariniana/dp/1974174298/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.amazon.com/Coinage-Roman-Empresses-Antoniniani-Mariniana/dp/1974174298/" rel="nofollow">This book</a> comes to mind, I only have Volume I, and find it light in its observations. The few journal articles that I have seen seem to focus more on hair styles than overall portrait style and portrait details.</p><p><br /></p><p>How much objectivity could there be in style assessment and what impact might that have on associated value...IMO formal rating systems can change pricing by making more visible what many may not see.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 3596308, member: 99456"][USER=88829]@lrbguy[/USER] - thanks for sharing the OP and triggering an interesting discussion - I like the approach of matching a denarius and antoninianus as a milestone in a collection. Although I have a few coins, Julia Domna not an area of focus for me but the thoughts shared seem broadly applicable: price complicated by multiple objective and subjective factors : who shows up at the auction, style, metal, quality, rarity, availability...as every ancient coin is unique, there isn't a purely objective answer on price. Illustrating the subjectivity: would your coins as a pair (denarius and antoninianus), with a bit of their story attract a few extra bids? The table from [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER] is fun to look over and "play the game". There is more data available today with [URL='https://www.acsearch.info']acsearch[/URL], [URL='https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com']sixbid's new archive[/URL], [URL='http://www.coryssa.org/']coryssa[/URL], etc. to see trends and compare past examples. As the more common Venus Genetrix has not made an appearance - here's the coin (GBP 85) after all auction fees and postage...real costs which are not represented in a lot of databases or discussions of "what I paid". [ATTACH=full]961826[/ATTACH] IMO a much harsher portrait of Julia Domna on this coin. Maybe another factor in what someone is willing to pay? All other factors equal,would a prettier or happier Julia get a higher price? Is there a reference that does a nice job of highlighting how portraits have changed over time, with public perception, and across mints for a given emperor or empress? [URL='https://www.amazon.com/Coinage-Roman-Empresses-Antoniniani-Mariniana/dp/1974174298/']This book[/URL] comes to mind, I only have Volume I, and find it light in its observations. The few journal articles that I have seen seem to focus more on hair styles than overall portrait style and portrait details. How much objectivity could there be in style assessment and what impact might that have on associated value...IMO formal rating systems can change pricing by making more visible what many may not see.[/QUOTE]
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