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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GoldFinger1969, post: 4041416, member: 73489&quot;]HUH ??? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie100" alt=":wideyed:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>How can 100 guys or 2 guys trade back-and-forth and they ALL make money ?&nbsp; It&#039;s zero-sum.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m not talking about selling older inventory they purchased a long time ago on the cheap.&nbsp; And presumably they could sell that to the public and make a profit, too.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>The more $$$ made by the first 4 SELLERS....the bigger the loss or underwater amount the 5th person, the BUYER, is....right ?</i></b></p><p><br /></p><p>I get that the coin show is a great opportunity for dealers to find specific inventory.&nbsp; But in the balance, it has to be zero-sum.&nbsp; If not, that video I posted of the Baseball Card gatherings in Parsippany, NJ....where you only had dealers.....would also be profitable since all the dealers are trading with one another.&nbsp; In fact, the video told of how the industry and hobby are dying.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>If all the coin dealers spend $1,000,000 buying other dealers coins...<b><i>are you saying that&#039;s as good as me and the folks at CT going in with $1,000,000 and taking stuff off their hands ?</i></b></p><p><br /></p><p>No...I completely agree.&nbsp; I know it&#039;s a tough business.&nbsp; I WANT the folks who I buy from to make $$$ -- better them than Ebay or HA. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I just don&#039;t see the mathematics of a bunch of dealers all trading with one another and ALL profiting from buying and selling....I see it as more zero-sum....I see specific NEEDS being filled and maybe you get a good deal where someone has such a low cost-basis that they are happy to make 80% on the coin and not 100% and the buyer gets a price low enough where he can re-sell it to the public and make a nice spread....but again...in the aggregate....???</p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe I&#039;m missing something.&nbsp; But I can&#039;t believe that $1 MM of dealers buying-and-selling to one another is the same as $1 MM coming from the public or CT.</p><p><br /></p><p>Again...no argument...but can they ALL be making money trading with one another ????&nbsp; I know I&#039;m sounding like a broken record, but in the end without the public I see it as zero-sum.</p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe this is why I never went into business for myself. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>You might be right, Doug....I&#039;m just having trouble visually seeing it.</p><p><br /></p><p>It comes down to me as....what&#039;s better...dealers buying from one another (zero-sum for the most part) or new $$$ from the public and collectors like me (new money + buying at retail, not wholseale).</p><p><br /></p><p>But I do appreciate your posts, I&#039;m learning. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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