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Message:: [QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 827784, member: 15929"]Lets throw a log on the fire here. As reported in the Authoritative Reference on eisenhower Dollars (Appendix A), in a letter from Howard F. Johnson, US Mint Assay Laboratories Chief, to Russell Rulau of Coin World, the following was quoted as the average number of coins produced from Lincoln cent business strike dies: Obv = 1,000,000Rev = 1,200,000 Over 15,000,000,000 Lincolns were produced in 1972 so yes, 1,000,000 is a fraction but thats a fairly large fraction. The real rarity for ANY DDO or DDR coin is controlled by a number of factors: Is it a readily identifiable DDO/DDR?Did the US Mint spot the DDO/DDR and then attempt to destroy the coins created with the die?Did some of the coins escape that destruction? If so how many? I guess what I'm saying is if raw numbers are simply tossed out for opinion gathering its not really a fair comparison sionce so many other factors come into play. True rarity can only be arrived at through search and results. Otherwise, we're talking "Pennache's" here! Additionally, just because a 1980-P DDO-001 exists in MDS does NOT mean that great numbers of the coin exist in EDS or even LDS. It simply means that the coin examined and cataloged was, in the opinion of the attributor, MDS.[/QUOTE]