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<p>[QUOTE="Herberto, post: 8231486, member: 74222"]As most of you know after the Roman Empire was divided in two administrations the western part dwinled imediately while the eastern part (Byzantine Empire) continued for 1000 years or so.</p><p><br /></p><p>Among coin collectors it is appearently accepted that during the reign of Anastasius (491-518) it was the beginning of a distinct "byzantine coinge".</p><p><br /></p><p>But that makes not much sense if you ask me. Because I do not see anything specific during the reign of Anastasius. Yes, he did introduce a new monetary system, but many others emperors before and after Anastasius also had monetary reform.</p><p><br /></p><p>Take a look her where I will describe the evolution of the coinage of the eastern part of Roman Empire:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here we have a coin of Arcadius (383- alone:395-408), and as you see it is not much different from the coins during the reign of Diolectian (286-305). They are the same: Bust looking to right, and with the usual "Dominos Noster...", and that was all started by Diolectian.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447141[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Then during the reign of Anastasius (491-518), he introduced a new system, the big "M" implying a denomination. We have M (40), K (20), I(10) and E(5). Nothing different from Arcadius. The only difference is the reverse with M.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447139[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That "M" continued until Theophilus (829-842) decided to remove the "M" and instead prised himself:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447135[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Later during the reign of John I Tzimisces (969-976) he decided to remove the portrait of emperor on the obverse and instead let the image of Christ appear. That coin here was during the reign of Basil II (976-1025):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447136[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Somehow 100 years later or so, one emperor decided to remove the text on reverse and instead putted an image of emperors/empress:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447137[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Later during the reign of Alexios I Komnenos (1081-1118) he introduced a completly new monetary reform, and among other he also made the coins concave:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1447138[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And that concave coins with a portrait of Christ on obverse and emperor on reverse continued until the demise of the Byzantine Empire.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now I want to ask: How can Anastasius' monetary reform be "the beginning" of a specific "byzantine coinage"? I would say that the reign of Diolectian (286-305) could be just as a good bet as Anastasius. Even the reign of Arcadius (383- alone:395-408) would be also a good starting point for the coinage of Byzantine.</p><p><br /></p><p>By the way the monetary reform of Anastasius was no more "revolutonary" than the reform of Diolectian. It was neither more "revolutionary" than when Leo III's (717-741) monetary reform when he introduced milearesion. Or Alexios I Komnenos (1081-1118) when he introduced a completly new denomination system.</p><p><br /></p><p>Why are Anastasius' coins considered to be the beginning of a specific "byzantine coinage"? Why not Diolectian, Leo III or Alexios I Komnenos?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Herberto, post: 8231486, member: 74222"]As most of you know after the Roman Empire was divided in two administrations the western part dwinled imediately while the eastern part (Byzantine Empire) continued for 1000 years or so. Among coin collectors it is appearently accepted that during the reign of Anastasius (491-518) it was the beginning of a distinct "byzantine coinge". But that makes not much sense if you ask me. Because I do not see anything specific during the reign of Anastasius. Yes, he did introduce a new monetary system, but many others emperors before and after Anastasius also had monetary reform. Take a look her where I will describe the evolution of the coinage of the eastern part of Roman Empire: Here we have a coin of Arcadius (383- alone:395-408), and as you see it is not much different from the coins during the reign of Diolectian (286-305). They are the same: Bust looking to right, and with the usual "Dominos Noster...", and that was all started by Diolectian. [ATTACH=full]1447141[/ATTACH] Then during the reign of Anastasius (491-518), he introduced a new system, the big "M" implying a denomination. We have M (40), K (20), I(10) and E(5). Nothing different from Arcadius. The only difference is the reverse with M. [ATTACH=full]1447139[/ATTACH] That "M" continued until Theophilus (829-842) decided to remove the "M" and instead prised himself: [ATTACH=full]1447135[/ATTACH] Later during the reign of John I Tzimisces (969-976) he decided to remove the portrait of emperor on the obverse and instead let the image of Christ appear. That coin here was during the reign of Basil II (976-1025): [ATTACH=full]1447136[/ATTACH] Somehow 100 years later or so, one emperor decided to remove the text on reverse and instead putted an image of emperors/empress: [ATTACH=full]1447137[/ATTACH] Later during the reign of Alexios I Komnenos (1081-1118) he introduced a completly new monetary reform, and among other he also made the coins concave: [ATTACH=full]1447138[/ATTACH] And that concave coins with a portrait of Christ on obverse and emperor on reverse continued until the demise of the Byzantine Empire. Now I want to ask: How can Anastasius' monetary reform be "the beginning" of a specific "byzantine coinage"? I would say that the reign of Diolectian (286-305) could be just as a good bet as Anastasius. Even the reign of Arcadius (383- alone:395-408) would be also a good starting point for the coinage of Byzantine. By the way the monetary reform of Anastasius was no more "revolutonary" than the reform of Diolectian. It was neither more "revolutionary" than when Leo III's (717-741) monetary reform when he introduced milearesion. Or Alexios I Komnenos (1081-1118) when he introduced a completly new denomination system. Why are Anastasius' coins considered to be the beginning of a specific "byzantine coinage"? Why not Diolectian, Leo III or Alexios I Komnenos?[/QUOTE]
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