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<p>[QUOTE="mark_h, post: 188720, member: 3726"]On this quote - I do not think classics are in trouble. It is not impossible to find 100 or 200 year old raw coins that can still be graded. PCGS will not grade anything they deem a problem - it does not mean they are perfect. Now here is where we kind of disagree "simply hasn't done an adequate job of educational preparation". I agree on this with the trade dollars based on "only what I have read". Where I disagree is that no amount of education can replace real life experiences, but it will probably prevent some of the most glaring mistakes. Maybe that is what you meant.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example - my father just recently submitted 8(morgans) coins to PCGS. As part of our selection process we used MS63, MS64 ,MS65 PCGS and NGC coins to compare them to. And do not take me wrong we are pleased with this learning experience. Out of the 8, 2 were body bagged - all of the rest were 62-64. I thought at least two stood a shot at 64/65 and the rest would be 60-63. I can't wait for his coins to come back to do more comparisons. I am going to have to line them to compare mint lustre and bag marks to see if it helps. Where I struggle is that I know I have some problem coins that I would like graded, so I am probably going to use ANACS(most of mine are copper). I think I might try PCGS on my shield nickels. And if a couple are body bagged it will not bother me. I will probably sit down and grade them again this weekend and have my father send them to PCGS next week. As much as I hate to say it I am sure a couple will still be body bagged - I do not think any are cleaned or corroded, but like PCGS I am not perfect.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry about being long winded - but this makes me think some of the college grads that come into the IT industry with 4/5 years schooling and oodles of certifications, only to get smacked in the face with real life. Time for me to take some lumps in my education.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mark_h, post: 188720, member: 3726"]On this quote - I do not think classics are in trouble. It is not impossible to find 100 or 200 year old raw coins that can still be graded. PCGS will not grade anything they deem a problem - it does not mean they are perfect. Now here is where we kind of disagree "simply hasn't done an adequate job of educational preparation". I agree on this with the trade dollars based on "only what I have read". Where I disagree is that no amount of education can replace real life experiences, but it will probably prevent some of the most glaring mistakes. Maybe that is what you meant. For example - my father just recently submitted 8(morgans) coins to PCGS. As part of our selection process we used MS63, MS64 ,MS65 PCGS and NGC coins to compare them to. And do not take me wrong we are pleased with this learning experience. Out of the 8, 2 were body bagged - all of the rest were 62-64. I thought at least two stood a shot at 64/65 and the rest would be 60-63. I can't wait for his coins to come back to do more comparisons. I am going to have to line them to compare mint lustre and bag marks to see if it helps. Where I struggle is that I know I have some problem coins that I would like graded, so I am probably going to use ANACS(most of mine are copper). I think I might try PCGS on my shield nickels. And if a couple are body bagged it will not bother me. I will probably sit down and grade them again this weekend and have my father send them to PCGS next week. As much as I hate to say it I am sure a couple will still be body bagged - I do not think any are cleaned or corroded, but like PCGS I am not perfect. Sorry about being long winded - but this makes me think some of the college grads that come into the IT industry with 4/5 years schooling and oodles of certifications, only to get smacked in the face with real life. Time for me to take some lumps in my education.[/QUOTE]
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