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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 834415, member: 66"]Exactly what law are you talking about enforcing and against whom? Counterfeiting? The people making themcare in China and outside your jurisdiction. And what they are doing is legal under Chinese law. That just leaves Paypal, ebay, and the buyer here in the US. Ebay and paypal have done nothing wrong. Ebay listed an auction from someone in China listing a legal product. A replica coin and marked replica Paypal was used to pay for a legal product. What grounds do you have against them? You might ask "Well what about the auctions listed where the seller is selling an unmarked copy as the real thing?" OK, how does eBay know it's a fake? They aren't coin experts. They don't know an auction list a fake until someone tells them. Then they have the problem of determining if it is fake or not. You wouldn't want them pulling an auction anytime someone just says so. And they don't have the coin in hand to examine so unless the person complaining can explain exactly why it is a fake and give some proof, they will probably let the auction run. (To give them their due they have been much more responsive lately about pulling questionable auctions than they used to be.) So this leaves the US citizen who buys a marked replica and receives an unmarked one. OK he HAS committed a violation of the HPA by importing an unmarked copy. Does the government track all the eBay auctions for the marked copies, get the buyers info from eBay, track them all down to see if they received a marked or unmarked copy in the mail and then arrest the people who receive unmaked copies? </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>As I said, they haven't really done anything wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That is correct, but it is not new legislation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 834415, member: 66"]Exactly what law are you talking about enforcing and against whom? Counterfeiting? The people making themcare in China and outside your jurisdiction. And what they are doing is legal under Chinese law. That just leaves Paypal, ebay, and the buyer here in the US. Ebay and paypal have done nothing wrong. Ebay listed an auction from someone in China listing a legal product. A replica coin and marked replica Paypal was used to pay for a legal product. What grounds do you have against them? You might ask "Well what about the auctions listed where the seller is selling an unmarked copy as the real thing?" OK, how does eBay know it's a fake? They aren't coin experts. They don't know an auction list a fake until someone tells them. Then they have the problem of determining if it is fake or not. You wouldn't want them pulling an auction anytime someone just says so. And they don't have the coin in hand to examine so unless the person complaining can explain exactly why it is a fake and give some proof, they will probably let the auction run. (To give them their due they have been much more responsive lately about pulling questionable auctions than they used to be.) So this leaves the US citizen who buys a marked replica and receives an unmarked one. OK he HAS committed a violation of the HPA by importing an unmarked copy. Does the government track all the eBay auctions for the marked copies, get the buyers info from eBay, track them all down to see if they received a marked or unmarked copy in the mail and then arrest the people who receive unmaked copies? As I said, they haven't really done anything wrong. That is correct, but it is not new legislation.[/QUOTE]
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